Drury Reassigned to Chicago

[Harbingers]

7 hours ago, Wes Mantooth said:

Just found this write up about the waiver exemptions rules. Pay special attention to the last paragraph given Drury's age (21) and having played professional in Sweden last year.

Waiver Exemption

"The most difficult part of the waiver system is that of exemption. As a general rule, developing players are exempt from the waiver requirement: teams are free to assign them to the minor leagues and to recall them. Specifically, exemption is determined by a combination of the number of years under contract and games played. Once a player hits a threshold number of games played based on the player's age and the number of years since he signed his first NHL contract, he loses the exemption and must pass through waivers. The number of years and games is set down in a table in paragraph 13.4 of the CBA:

	Goalies		Skaters
Age	Years from signing-NHL	NHL Games Played	Years from signing-NHL	NHL Games Played
18	6	80	5	160
19	5	80	4	160
20	4	80	3	160
21	4	60	3	80
22	4	60	3	70
23	3	60	3	60
24	2	60	2	60
25+	1		1

For waiver purposes, NHL regular season games and playoff games count the same. Immediately after a player plays the number of games indicated, he loses the waiver exemption. If he doesn't reach the number of games, he nevertheless loses his waiver exemption on reaching the number of seasons under an NHL contract.

This is relatively straightforward. However, there are a number of additional rules that make it more complicated. First, the number of years is reduced by two for eighteen year old or nineteen year old players playing more than eleven NHL games. So, any goalie playing more than eleven NHL games by age nineteen will lose waiver exemption after four seasons and any skater doing the same will lose waiver exemption after three.

Additionally, for players twenty or older, all professional games count, not just NHL games. This includes all minor league games and European league games while the player is on loan and signed to an NHL team. For waiver purposes, age eighteen means the player reaches that age between January 1 and September 15 of the draft year. Ages from nineteen to twenty-one mean that the player reaches that age during the year of the draft."

I'm not the most intelligent guy out there, but that last paragraph would seem to indicate that Drury would be eligible for waivers by the end of next month regardless of if he's playing in Carolina or Chicago. He's played 66 pro games between Carolina, Chicago, and Vaxjo.

However, what I'm not sure of if that 80 game rule is retroactive, or goes into effect after signing the NHL entry level contract. Drury didn't sign his deal until after the season he played with Vaxjo, where he logged 41 pro games. 

Long story short, from my understanding it seems he wouldn't be eligible for waiver for another 14 AHL/NHL games at the very minimum. 

Please feel free to poke holes in this theory as it's something I've only put together while avoiding work for the past 15 or so minutes!

But is he RFA. I think that’s what kicks him back to the other rule but you could he completely correct. I’ll look his contract up in a minute. 

[Wes Mantooth]

5 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

But is he RFA. I think that’s what kicks him back to the other rule but you could he completely correct. I’ll look his contract up in a minute. 

Completely missed this handy tool on Cap Friendly earlier. https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-calculator/jack-drury#results

It seems to indicate that he has 78 games until he's no longer exempt from waivers? Maybe my interpretation earlier was completely wrong and all that truly counts are NHL games?

If so, I've never been so happy to be wildly inaccurate with a take.

[Harbingers]

Just now, Wes Mantooth said:

Completely missed this handy tool on Cap Friendly earlier. https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-calculator/jack-drury#results

It seems to indicate that he has 78 games until he's no longer exempt from waivers? Maybe my interpretation earlier was completely wrong and all that truly counts are NHL games?

If so, I've never been so happy to be wildly inaccurate with a take.

@MillionDollarCam or someone is gonna have to answer this one. I try and keep apprised of all the caveats with the waiver rules but every time they seem to be different. 

If he’s got more than the 10 games to hit the NHL waiver line I’d be so happy. Because we will need him over the next 3-4 months.   

[Wes Mantooth]

4 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

@MillionDollarCam or someone is gonna have to answer this one. I try and keep apprised of all the caveats with the waiver rules but every time they seem to be different. 

If he’s got more than the 10 games to hit the NHL waiver line I’d be so happy. Because we will need him over the next 3-4 months.   

Really curious to get a good answer on this one. I think the confusion starts with some misconstruing of the Jarvis situation from earlier this year, when the rules seem to be completely different since Jarv is 19 and Drury is 21.

From the reading I've done, it all had to with when the entry level contract officially kicked in, not waivers. Say Jarvis had been sent down before he hit 11 games, his ELC would slide a year and he wouldn't be an RFA until after 2025. But since he's played more than 11 games, he'll be an RFA in 2024.

According to Cap Friendly, Jarv is still waivers exempt for another 140 games because of his age.

https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-calculator/seth-jarvis#results

Again, I'm a complete neophyte in this area, so don't take my word for much worth.

[MillionDollarCam]

Drury has 78 games.

He wasn’t under contract with the Canes when he signed in the SHL. He signed his ELC after the SHL season in July at the age of 21.