Sam Howell's Pro Day

[frankw]

In a trade down scenario yeah you take a look and consider options he would be one. Not having a 2nd really blows. Even worse we one upped ourselves and shipped off our 3rd

[LinvilleGorge]

27 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

i dont need to know your history

 

i see a UNC fan saying howell is the best when everyone has him at 4 or 5.  and i mean everyone 

 

im sorry but add those things together and that = a Homer! 

Nope. You don't need any additional info to arrive at your predetermined conclusion. You've shown it over and over. Hilarious of you to essentially be accusing others of what you epitomize. Congrats!

 

[The Huddler]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nope. You don't need any additional info to arrive at your predetermined conclusion. You've shown it over and over. Hilarious of you to essentially be accusing others of what you epitomize. Congrats!

 

 

you didnt address or refute anything i said

 

all you did to shoot me down was say i don't know your history predicting UNC prospects.. 

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Over and over again.

[The Huddler]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Over and over again.

i like howell as a prospect if we take him in the right place as an upside pick

 

bit taking him at 6 because hes the beat QB in the draft is silly and im not a troll for calling that out.  im giving my opinion

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

 

you didnt address or refute anything i said

 

all you did to shoot me down was say i don't know your history predicting UNC prospects.. 

 

 

Just calling you out for what you are.

Meanwhile...

 

[The Huddler]

@LinvilleGorge

 

if kenny pickett at 6 would be a horrible pick that would set this franchise back, what has sam howell done to make anyone think that hes a better QB.  He certainly didnt win as much as pickett. didnt elevate his team like pickett

 

im not saying we should take pickett, but no where have i seen any kind of actually argument for Howell over pickett, other than UnC homers on this board. 

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

i like howell as a prospect if we take him in the right place as an upside pick

 

bit taking him at 6 because hes the beat QB in the draft is silly and im not a troll for calling that out.  im giving my opinion

Oh... now you're gonna okay the "giving my opinion" card after you initiall

 

Just now, The Huddler said:

@LinvilleGorge

 

if kenny pickett at 6 would be a horrible pick that would set this franchise back, what has sam howell done to make anyone think that hes a better QB.  He certainly didnt win as much as pickett. didnt elevate his team like pickett

 

im not saying we should take pickett, but no where have i seen any kind of actually argument for Howell over pickett, other than UnC homers on this board. 

 

 

If you don't think Howell elevated UNC you didn't watch the games. I'm not sure UNC beats a single D1 opponent last year without Howell.

Hell, just of back and watch UNC vs. Pitt and honestly tell me who was the best QB on the field. Swap the QBs and Pitt wins that game by 3-4 TDs.

[The Huddler]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Just calling you out for what you are.

Meanwhile...

 

ok.  lets paise for a sec. I can admit that calling you a straight up homer was just to be pointy.  I didnt know if you werw ovwrly high on UNC players or not..

so i admit, that was a conclusion i jumped to..

 

but what i was trying to get at was i think you are way to high on howell because he went to UNC.  i think you are being a homer in this instance.  I think you think howell is the beat in the draft because of emotion, bot because of any circumstantial evidence. 

 

 

[The Huddler]

excuse my typos i promise i can spell im cooking dinner

[LinvilleGorge]

I think Howell is the best QB in the draft because he has all the tools and he has shown he can handle adversity without getting rattled or frustrated. UNC was horrible last year. The OL absolutely fell apart and there was only one legit receiver on the roster. Howell had never ran before and transitioned to a one read and bolt QB out of necessity. I didn't need to see Howell go through progressions. I'd already seen it. What I got to see last year is how Howell handled getting the absolute hell beat out of him while having to carry the entire offense and not having a defense to lean on. Anyone who was high on Howell prior should honestly be even higher on him. Don't watch the team, watch the player.

[travisura]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Over and over again.

Homer or not, choosing to die on the hill that Howell is the undisputed best QB in this class is an interesting choice. I guess you're rooting for him to go to the Steelers so you can root for them and finally give up on the Panthers like you've been threatening to do for months now. I guess we shall see.

[The Huddler]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Howell is the best QB in the draft because he has all the tools and he has shown he can handle adversity without getting rattled or frustrated. UNC was horrible last year. The OL absolutely fell apart and there was only one legit receiver on the roster. Howell had never ran before and transitioned to a one read and bolt QB out of necessity. I didn't need to see Howell go through progressions. I'd already seen it. What I got to see last year is how Howell handled getting the absolute hell beat out of him while having to carry the entire offense and not having a defense to lean on. Anyone who was high on Howell prior should honestly be even higher on him. Don't watch the team, watch the player.

ok. i can respect that reasoning and there are valid points to that

[The Huddler]

i can certainly respect howells maturity when things didnt go well and his stock dropped. 

 

he looks like baker mayfield but thats anti baker mayfield behavior 

 

like i said, I like howell and would like to take a chance on him at the right spot.  but not at 6.  Across the board everyone is saying this is a weak QB class and nowhere have i seen him ranked in the top two

 

sure, take a chance in him at the right spot as a value reclamation pick. id be all for that.