It is what it is - Time to move on

[Guest BradThomas]

Let's consider this:

Fox has overhauled the defense, changed offensive coordinators and special teams coordinators during his tenure. In most cases, those changes have resulted in a worse result.

Fox has one more season left on his contract at about 5.5 million. He's coming off what probably be his worst season as a head coach with arguably the most talent he's ever had.

He's only won more than 8 games 3 times in 8 seasons. His offense was sub-par. His defense wasn't that much better.

Fans want change. If you are going to suck in 2010, at least make progress while sucking and not regress.

I don't think he'll be fired during the season, however, but IMO better sooner than later. It sends a message to your fan base that you care and that you as an owner are on their side.

I think there is a good chance there is a change, I'd put it at 75%.

[raleigh-panther]

We really must ask ourselves, how an offensive team that has Steve Smith, Deangleo Williams and Johnathan Stewart is this bad against better competition.

At some point, there are no more coordinators to blame.

I think Fox is a good man and I think he knows football certainly; but, as I said back in September and got flamed for it, the Panthers will never win a superbowl with Fox or with Delhomme. They are both second tier.

Delhomme is finished. Fox, well, he can take his $5 million next year to do nothing and play golf, or he can go be someone's DC.

Just in the name of all that is holy in this Christmas season, please bring a coach to the Panthers who can create a tough team. Surely, for $5 million, we paid Fox, Richardson can find one.

[Acewalker]

All I want for Christmas is a new head coach

[Mr. Scot]

Zimmer is still my first choice, followed by Frazier, then Rivera.

Don't see us going the offensive coach route. Richardson has never gone that way before.

[Argus Plexus]

Need offense to score more points with a great improvement to the pass game, so that we can have 200+ rush yards and 200+ pass yards in a game. That's a hard team to game plan for. That makes the opposing defense make mistakes.

Defense just needs to learn to not allow so many yards.

[Mesmer]

Fox definitely needs to go, but no names really jump out for me as far as his replacement goes.

I think Richardson has basically made up his mind at this point, but is giving Fox the remainder of the season.

[Bruce]

Who here remember the first conversation Fox had with the team when he took over? He questioned their toughness. What happened to that coach?

[Mr. Scot]

You might have been able to make a case for Fox prior to today, but in this game he made some awful decisions. Going for that long field goal in the weather; the confused, awful looking clock management at the end of the first-half, the game plan that looked like a case of indecision; it all just looked bad.

Good as he may be, and acknowledging that he might move on and lead his next team to a Super Bowl, his time as Panthers coach needs to end with this season.

[CosmoGirl]

Let's consider this:

Fox has overhauled the defense, changed offensive coordinators and special teams coordinators during his tenure. In most cases, those changes have resulted in a worse result.

Fox has one more season left on his contract at about 5.5 million. He's coming off what probably be his worst season as a head coach with arguably the most talent he's ever had.

He's only won more than 8 games 3 times in 8 seasons. His offense was sub-par. His defense wasn't that much better.

Fans want change. If you are going to suck in 2010, at least make progress while sucking and not regress.

I don't think he'll be fired during the season, however, but IMO better sooner than later. It sends a message to your fan base that you care and that you as an owner are on their side.

I think there is a good chance there is a change, I'd put it at 75%.

I think every fan of the team would be willing to chip in $5 to buy out Fox' contract.

Maybe the last two tailgate pots can be used towards this...

[Mr. Scot]

Yasinskas believes that 10 losses will seal it. His theory is that going from double digit wins to double digit losses in one season is just too much for Richardson to take.

[rayzor]

Zimmer is still my first choice, followed by Frazier, then Rivera.

Don't see us going the offensive coach route. Richardson has never gone that way before.

with offense being the major issue that it is and the success we have had with defensive coaches so far (no rings) i could see reason for a change in philosophy.

[Mother Grabber]

Welcome aboard, everyone.

[Mr. Scot]

with offense being the major issue that it is and the success we have had with defensive coaches so far (no rings) i could see reason for a change in philosophy.

I could too. I just don't know if Jerry Richardson could.