Is it possible to play any dirtier than the saints defense just played?

[N'wahlinsCayenne]

evenly on both sides? there were no huge headscratchers called in the Vikings favor....

there were several huge plays that went in favor of the Saints - that weren't questionable but simply clearly wrong calls.

Disagree...the PI on Porter in the endzone vs. Berrian I would not have called. The Anthony Hargrove hit on Favre after he released it was not, as some people have said, a pick up and slam to the ground," but just a good hit right after the ball was released. Pretty much all the controversial calls were judgement calls. The Pierre Thomas 4th and 1 dive play could not have been overturned since there was no definitive angle. Meachem had the ball pinned to his lower body and there was no video proof the ball hit the ground and/or moved while coming close to the ground. And the pass interference on ben Leber, which i would not have called because I believe it was not catchable, was a judgement call by the ref that cannot bhe reviewed. Of all the calls I mentioned, none were clearcut blown calls.

[N'wahlinsCayenne]

... saints are lucky the vikings helped them out.

That's fair, although I would argue that WE forced most of those turnovers by punching ball out. But myself and the rest of the Saints fans don't care and SHOULD not care because we're in the S.B. and 42 years was a long enough time to wait.

[CatMan72]

Exactly.

Amazes me that I am reading on here that the Saints got lucky on turnovers, hits on the QB, etc. I swear I don't think some on here have even touched a football much less strapped on the pads.

LOL, turnovers and hitting the QB are the stuff wins are made of.

[CatMan72]

Disagree...the PI on Porter in the endzone vs. Berrian I would not have called. The Anthony Hargrove hit on Favre after he released it was not, as some people have said, a pick up and slam to the ground," but just a good hit right after the ball was released. Pretty much all the controversial calls were judgement calls. The Pierre Thomas 4th and 1 dive play could not have been overturned since there was no definitive angle. Meachem had the ball pinned to his lower body and there was no video proof the ball hit the ground and/or moved while coming close to the ground. And the pass interference on ben Leber, which i would not have called because I believe it was not catchable, was a judgement call by the ref that cannot bhe reviewed. Of all the calls I mentioned, none were clearcut blown calls.

Agree, I think the only clearly blown call in the game was the PI on the Vikings LB at the end of the game and that was a biggie... but that's the way it goes. I think it would make sense to allow coaches to challenge PI calls in the future. Had they Vikings been able to challenge that call, it would have been overturned.

Bottom line, the Saints did what they had to do to win and the Vikings didn't.

[CRA]

Disagree...the PI on Porter in the endzone vs. Berrian I would not have called. The Anthony Hargrove hit on Favre after he released it was not, as some people have said, a pick up and slam to the ground," but just a good hit right after the ball was released. Pretty much all the controversial calls were judgement calls. The Pierre Thomas 4th and 1 dive play could not have been overturned since there was no definitive angle. Meachem had the ball pinned to his lower body and there was no video proof the ball hit the ground and/or moved while coming close to the ground. And the pass interference on ben Leber, which i would not have called because I believe it was not catchable, was a judgement call by the ref that cannot bhe reviewed. Of all the calls I mentioned, none were clearcut blown calls.

you disagree?

was Thomas not down at the 1? was there not a ref literally standind at the goaline in perfect view (approximately 5 ft away from him).....and were they not awarded a TD?

was Favre not a victim of the "Brady Rule" and did that not go uncalled? Every QB in the league gets that call and gets it on plays much less drastic..... that shoudl have resulted in a 1st down for Minny but instead the Saints got a turnover.

The PT in OT simply didn't exist. The contact was by the Saint player and after he initiated it they both fell - and the ball was uncatchable on top of that.

That is 3 flat out wrong calls that went to the Saints. 2 of the 3 were HUGE.

The difference is the others you talk about that went against the Saints like the Favre "slam" are questionable calls where people argue both sides....there aren't two side to the scenarios above imo.

[Brandon77]

The saints really are not the better team, it took 5 turnovers and some really horrible calls and cheapshots and homefield advantage to barely squeak in a win. They won't get that against the Colts and they will get torn apart. I hope manning drops a 400 burger on them, and he probably will based on how he dismantled the jets. Plus I think Breezy might have gotten hurt at some point during the game because every pass he through in the 4th Q and OT was basically a duck and off target.

[MadHatter]

Disagree...the PI on Porter in the endzone vs. Berrian I would not have called. The Anthony Hargrove hit on Favre after he released it was not, as some people have said, a pick up and slam to the ground," but just a good hit right after the ball was released. Pretty much all the controversial calls were judgement calls. The Pierre Thomas 4th and 1 dive play could not have been overturned since there was no definitive angle. Meachem had the ball pinned to his lower body and there was no video proof the ball hit the ground and/or moved while coming close to the ground. And the pass interference on ben Leber, which i would not have called because I believe it was not catchable, was a judgement call by the ref that cannot bhe reviewed. Of all the calls I mentioned, none were clearcut blown calls.

Porter absolutely mugged Berrian in the endzone. That much contact off the field would have resulted in an assault charge.

The Thomas and Meachem calls were both too close to overturn. They could have been called either way on the field and none of them woudl have been overturned. The Saints were lucky to be on the positive side of both calls. They could have easily been on the losing side of either or both.

But, judgement calls are part of the game. Most even themselves out. I think the Saints were the receipients of more than their fair share. However, I don't think there was a conspiracy. Just the way the ball bounces.

The Vikings had opportunity after opportunity to take that game...and they blew it. From the numerous fumbles....to Favre's two brainfart interceptions....to Favre's refusal to run for yardage at the end of regulation.

They make some of those plays and the ones in OT would have never happened.

Saints won...and that is all that matters.

[Proudiddy]

Porter absolutely mugged Berrian in the endzone. That much contact off the field would have resulted in an assault charge.

The Thomas and Meachem calls were both too close to overturn. They could have been called either way on the field and none of them woudl have been overturned. The Saints were lucky to be on the positive side of both calls. They could have easily been on the losing side of either or both.

But that's the problem I have with this game... I mentioned in my post earlier that with judgment calls like both the PI calls in OT should have been ignored. If the call could go either way, or it doesn't actually affect the outcome of the play, it should be ignored. And REFS, should remove themselves from the outcome of plays as much as possible, unless it is absolutely blatant, especially in OT.

Those PI calls and the bad spots on both the 3rd and 4th down before the FG were horrible. Yet the catch made by Berrian in the 4th quarter where he had to turn back and grab the ball behind him near the sidelines while having a Saints player holding his arm and sliding down it before the ball even got there went uncalled.

So did the one-handed catch by Shaincoe early in the game where a Saints DB had grabbed his undershirt, pulled it and held it all the way through the catch to the point that it was shown hanging out from under his jersey torn down the middle... That's not pass interference? Those were muhc more blatant than the calls they gave the Saints.

The refs decided the game. Without really having a horse in the race, I was extremely disappointed in how this game played out.

They have got to change the OT rules this offseason, so refs can't decide games with horrible calls. Just play another 15 minute Quarter and may be the best team win, not the team that's lucky enough to win the toss and get all the calls to help them into FG range... GARBAGE.

[Guest DrewBreesIsGod]

But that's the problem I have with this game... I mentioned in my post earlier that with judgment calls like both the PI calls in OT should have been ignored. If the call could go either way, or it doesn't actually affect the outcome of the play, it should be ignored. And REFS, should remove themselves from the outcome of plays as much as possible, unless it is absolutely blatant, especially in OT.

Those PI calls and the bad spots on both the 3rd and 4th down before the FG were horrible. Yet the catch made by Berrian in the 4th quarter where he had to turn back and grab the ball behind him near the sidelines while having a Saints player holding his arm and sliding down it before the ball even got there went uncalled.

So did the one-handed catch by Shaincoe early in the game where a Saints DB had grabbed his undershirt, pulled it and held it all the way through the catch to the point that it was shown hanging out from under his jersey torn down the middle... That's not pass interference? Those were muhc more blatant than the calls they gave the Saints.

The refs decided the game. Without really having a horse in the race, I was extremely disappointed in how this game played out.

They have got to change the OT rules this offseason, so refs can't decide games with horrible calls. Just play another 15 minute Quarter and may be the best team win, not the team that's lucky enough to win the toss and get all the calls to help them into FG range... GARBAGE.

spoiled grapes...you'll get back there someday

[Guest DrewBreesIsGod]

Porter absolutely mugged Berrian in the endzone. That much contact off the field would have resulted in an assault charge.

The Thomas and Meachem calls were both too close to overturn. They could have been called either way on the field and none of them woudl have been overturned. The Saints were lucky to be on the positive side of both calls. They could have easily been on the losing side of either or both.

But, judgement calls are part of the game. Most even themselves out. I think the Saints were the receipients of more than their fair share. However, I don't think there was a conspiracy. Just the way the ball bounces.

The Vikings had opportunity after opportunity to take that game...and they blew it. From the numerous fumbles....to Favre's two brainfart interceptions....to Favre's refusal to run for yardage at the end of regulation.

They make some of those plays and the ones in OT would have never happened.

Saints won...and that is all that matters.

nice job...your streak has ended at 2514 bad posts in a row. Finally a solid one

[TheSaint]

hah...what bullshit. the 1st roughing the passer call was BS. Since when is it dirty to hit the QB??? It wasnt a late hit...the next hit he took was later. The f**king officials were even helping Brett fix his jersey...there were several BS calls THE OTHER Way...

The Bush TD they initially didnt call?? wtf? the official was right on top of it.

The flag disparity was heavily in the Vikings favor...

The pass interference in OT, looks like it was questionable...admittedly. \

Of course my EFFING DVR didnt record last night. So ill probably never see that game broadcast which sucks.

[Saint J]

nfl replay is playing the game in its entirety tomm night at 8

[Saints4life]

What about the hit on Brees in overtime that wasn't called?when Farved handed the ball off it looking it was meant to be a bootleg that led to hit getting hit. This is not flag football people in this sport people get hit. don't know how great your tv is but I am watching on a 52" LED tv with HD and did not see the ball hit the ground on Meach's catch. Thought where the ball was at when hit is where it is spotted. With that said Pieree was hit with the ball past the mark sorta like forward progress. The game was called the best way it could be fellas well atleast thats what the script told us to say when asked about the officiating "wink wink"

[rico6]

What about the hit on Brees in overtime that wasn't called?when Farved handed the ball off it looking it was meant to be a bootleg that led to hit getting hit. This is not flag football people in this sport people get hit. don't know how great your tv is but I am watching on a 52" LED tv with HD and did not see the ball hit the ground on Meach's catch. Thought where the ball was at when hit is where it is spotted. With that said Pieree was hit with the ball past the mark sorta like forward progress. The game was called the best way it could be fellas well atleast thats what the script told us to say when asked about the officiating "wink wink"

Nice, now you know to take back your shitty TV.

Meachum caught it, bobbled it, then it escaped his grasp and touched the ground.

So you can catch a pass out of bounds, but if it even grazes the turf it's an automatic incomplete.

But you call that poo a complete pass? Again if you even argue that, this was an evenly called game your an ignoramus.