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2024 Panthers Season Recap

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On 1/8/2025 at 1:29 PM, CRA said:

I think there is enough to show the team sort of accepted they were moving on.....but then the unpredictable just happened. 

Morgan basically saying the only thing he can say at this point. 

but yeah, I think they stumbled upon the Bryce redemption more than anything.  If Dalton played okay and stayed healthy...Bryce might of got a token game at the end (which is what you generally see around the league). 

I'm definitely not buying were are suddenly a smart and well run team.  Part of 1 seasons is going to sale me on that when you got so much backing the opposite under Tepper.  Including different windows where we falsely assumed we were no longer a poorly run org.  

Fake it until you make it. 

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On 1/8/2025 at 1:36 PM, CRA said:

I think that's debatable if that was really the plan going into this year.  I mean, they benched him a mere 2 games into the season.  That doesn't scream they were really trying to invest a lot of time into figuring it out with him.  Injury brought him back to the table.  And I think we choose to remember the past a little different.  I mean, if you go back in time all the tea leaf reading around here was Canales was done with him and never really wanted him. 

as far as Canales at the podium? Saying of course we were going to try to get another look at him.  If Dalton played well and stayed healthy? I think reasonably that might of meant to give him a game or so at the end.  

I mean, I just refuse to believe we are now smartly run because they sort stumbled into a Young redemption at the end of the season.  I think the team had moved on until Andy's injury re-opened the door. 

From what we know of all his endeavors, nothing about Tepper entities says they are well run.  I'm not falling for that because of a couple weeks of football.  I mean we were finally a big boy and smart run team heading into the Frank Reich era too lol. 

 

I agree with your viewpoint. I don't think they would have given him much of a chance this year. The plan was likely to let him sit a year and get him going next season. This team is known for lucking into the right decisions. Luke was an outside LB until Beason was injured. Almost trading a 1st for Clausen would have cost us Cam. Josh Norman finally getting on the field just in time in 2015. Etc. 

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