Panthers #7 in power rankings...

[kane#7]

18 is a bit low in my book. Also, I would still rank us ahead of the Falcons. Our OL, RB, Defense are all better. Our WR are still a ? until we see the young guns play. I would put Moore even with Ryan at this point.

Woah!!! Falcons fan here...

Moore even with Ryan???

Let me start this argument off with firstly saying Moore did look good at the end last year and could develop into a good QB but lets employ the Derek Anderson rule and have him start a full season and have more tape that can be studied on him before calling him equal with Matty Ice

OL yes you do win here vs the Falcons but ours isn't bad

RB you do win because of the two headed monster but once again our RB's when healthy*** are not that far behind

Defense... well Pass Defense probably but we have improved this over the off-season Run-Defense I would give us the edge we were good at this last year and we are getting Jerry back and Spoon is a Beast at LB

Receivers go to the Falcons with White and Smith cancelling each other out then we have Tony G who is better than anyone you have and i can only say get ready for HD at third string you will be sick of him...

QB Falcons easy because well he is just better than Moore is right now by quite a lot its his body of work and 2 Seasons full time starter > 5 games last year

[eViL jEsTeR]

Peppers, Lewis, Thomas > Brown, Johnson, Tyler

we were porous last year and now have our bench starting. how is that an improvement? if so, then i've got a great idea!!! let's let smitty go, and start jarrett!!!!! :hurray:

[pstall]

i think King lifted his info from my blog pstallrightearly.com

[ChucktownK]

Sounds like we need to apply a new coat of stelff paynt. That or the radar is broke.

[carolinarolls]

I feel MUCH better now knowing that an analyst has ranked the Panthers #8 for the upcoming season in the middle of May.

Hell yes!

We are gonna have a great year!

/sarcasm

[PantherBob]

our rushing defense improve dramatically eh? it was still mediocre. the point is, who knew Hollis Thomas would could do anything, no one, thats exactly how it is now. no one knows.

go back and read what i said, because obviously you are going on what you think I meant instead of what I said. and Peppers is not one of the top 2 DEs in the league, try again. hes really good, but go back and look at some tape. Which top OTs did he dominate?

Who knew he could do anything? Im pretty sure he wouldnt have played for 14 years if nobody knew he could do anything.

I guess you werent watching the tape when pro bowl LT Bryant Mckinne was benched because Peppers was abusing him the whole game. Is Peppers dominant in every game? NO! No DE is. Even Jarred Allen has games where he was quiet. Seriously, I just love people who say "watch the tape" as if they really watch it themselves. LOL! But go ahead and give me a list of all the DEs that you think are better than Peppers since you watch so much more tape than everyone else.

[PantherBob]

First of all, Ed Johnson will NOT start along side Tyler. Louis is the other starting DT.

Please at least have your facts straight before you try and talk like you have a f**king clue.

Another 12 yo who found the password to his parent's computer....

Oh no, the forum bad boy wannabe just called me a 12 year old. What will I do? I better watch what I say from now on so poserboy doesnt humiliate me like this again. LMFAO!!!!

Last time I checked none of the starters at DT has been named yet. Louis, Tyler, Irvin, Johnson, etc you can name any combo of these career backups/average DTs that you wish. Its still a downgrade from what we had before even if they werent great.

[Wither]

hmm... sounds familiar.

lol. Nice catch, and good point about the recursiveness of the "the D-line was good" posts. I remember a lot of people bitching about the D-line last year (Peppers in particular). Outside of Peppers, who was any good?

6-10

This is a rebuilding year

6 wins is rebuilding?

Oh no, the forum bad boy wannabe just called me a 12 year old. What will I do? I better watch what I say from now on so poserboy doesnt humiliate me like this again. LMFAO!!!!

I don't really like you, but stay on this track and you'll be established around here... :patriot:

[PantherBob]

I don't really like you

Only because I was right in our last debate. Dont worry you'll get over it.

[Wither]

Only because I was right in our last debate. Dont worry you'll get over it.

Which debate was that? I vehemently argue a side point in every major argument and then abruptly leave the thread so that I don't have to continue it and can claim victory.

[PantherBob]

Which debate was that? I vehemently argue a side point in every major argument and then abruptly leave the thread so that I don't have to continue it and can claim victory.

Oh so thats what you were doing. I thought you actually had a life outside of this forum or something and thats why you didnt always have time to argue with someone who disagreed with you. Glad I was wrong.

[Wither]

Oh so thats what you were doing. I thought maybe you had a life outside of this forum or something and thats why you didnt always have time to argue with someone who disagreed with you. Glad I was wrong.

Oh hell naw; I have no life outside of the forum, really. When things get slow I play a few video games and wait for some more posts to respond to.

[top dawg]

I am---as we all should be---in a wait-and-see mode.

I still do believe that Pep is one of the best in the game. All of the arguments about being blocked by one man or playing against top DLs is basically hogwash because all DEs (and other "sack-men") pretty much get the sacks in an up-down/hit-miss mode. Moreover, anyone that argues that we are better without Pep is crazy, plain and simple. That being said, we do have the potential to be better on the DL this year than last year because hopefully our youngsters will step it up and realize their potential (and this goes for the backfield as well). Even if our DL commitee outperforms Pep and company of 2009, IMHO, we would be that much better if we had Pep. Do you get my drift?

Anyway, getting back to our defensive backfield, they began to figure things out later on in the year, but I'd have a hard time saying that they are one of the top because the overall stats were skewed because of the swiss cheese nature of our DL at the beginning of last year. But guys, the latter half of the season, the whole defense began to click. There was undeniably marked improvement the second half of the season, including our line and backfield. Did Thomas and Lewis play a role? Yes. Tyler played a limited role as well, and he just may be more talented than both Thomas and Lewis. Moreover, I think that the forgotten man is Corvey Irvin, who I've always said will probably surprise a lot of folks around here.

Offensively, I am not that worried. With the addition of a brand new starter at QB, and two talented WRs, how can we not build upon the success of the second half of last season? Fox and Hurney say their going to open it up and strive for more balance this year, which is good. But even if Fox converts back to his old ways, I can't even see how he could screw up the most exciting RB tandem in the game.

I don't have grandiose expectations this year, but I am very excited. I want to see what the young guns will bring to the table. So, like I said earlier, I am going to wait and see what they have---at least the first few games of the season---before I predict anything.

[Mr. Scot]

Not a big fan of power rankings, but with regard to this:

8. Carolina. Dangerous team. Very deceiving 8-8 record last year. While everyone tiptoed around it because everyone in the Carolinas loves Jake Delhomme, something awful happened to him in the last year and a half, and he just couldn't play quarterback for this team anymore. Check out what Matt Moore did in his last three starts: three wins, 66-percent accuracy, seven touchdowns, zero picks, and the Panthers outscored three foes 90-26. (Asterisk on the third, New Orleans, because the Saints played the JV that day.) This will be John Fox's last year with the Panthers -- the owner, Jerry Richardson, doesn't want to be in the business of laying off employees and paying a former coach $6 million a year in this economy -- and I think he'll say full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes, forget next year, I'm doing everything I can to win right now. And he'll win enough to make the Wild Card.

I don't think it's dead set that this is Fox's last year, but I'm glad at least one member of the media isn't buying into the whole dumb "tanking the season" notion that everyone else is constantly floating about the Panthers.