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There are some teams absolutely boxed in on bad qb contracts

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8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If Penix works out that softens the Cousins blow a LOT while at the same time negating the cap benefit of having a QB on a rookie contract. Either way, their future is like ours. It heavily relies on how our young QBs ultimately pan out.

I was not clear, but the locker room and front office problems could arise from this--on paper I see it.  Having $70m at the QB spot with Penix being your QB is a stinger that takes away the benefit of having a QB on that rookie deal.  I look at that 4 years as an opportunity to get your affairs in order...

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54 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I was not clear, but the locker room and front office problems could arise from this--on paper I see it.  Having $70m at the QB spot with Penix being your QB is a stinger that takes away the benefit of having a QB on that rookie deal.  I look at that 4 years as an opportunity to get your affairs in order...

It is what it is and they knew what it was right away. They pretty much had instant buyer's remorse. No way they pick Penix in the top 10 six weeks after signing Cousins unless they realized they'd fuged up.

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58 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I was not clear, but the locker room and front office problems could arise from this--on paper I see it.  Having $70m at the QB spot with Penix being your QB is a stinger that takes away the benefit of having a QB on that rookie deal.  I look at that 4 years as an opportunity to get your affairs in order...

They are going to have to dump him even if he could have theoretically stayed. The contract size and Cousin's personalty make it inevitable. Maybe they try and sneak through the season and then June 1st him next year or have to do it this year and just eat the dead cap. I wouldn't want to be that guy in that house lol. Especially if Penix doesn't do decently.

Like LG said it was buyers remorse. Many suspected serious buyers remorse before the Penix pick. It was always overpaying for 3500 yards and 18/16 tds/ints. Guy was 35 with a blown ACL so betting against that after being tied to it was correct because then it was his shoulder and elbow. I think even some of the talking heads were talking about Kirk not being what they hoped for when they signed him. I suspect they tried to buy the NFCS crown and had it blow up in their faces. They could have signed anyone else but they went with the too expensive guy that was good at getting into the playoffs at least...before getting bounced lol. It was always a spaz move and I wonder where Blank had his fingers on the scale in the processes.

 

 

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4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It is what it is and they knew what it was right away. They pretty much had instant buyer's remorse. No way they pick Penix in the top 10 six weeks after signing Cousins unless they realized they'd fuged up.

Yeah, but how does that happen?  It blew me away--each step of the process.

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4 hours ago, Waldo said:

They are going to have to dump him even if he could have theoretically stayed. The contract size and Cousin's personalty make it inevitable. Maybe they try and sneak through the season and then June 1st him next year or have to do it this year and just eat the dead cap. I wouldn't want to be that guy in that house lol. Especially if Penix doesn't do decently.

Like LG said it was buyers remorse. Many suspected serious buyers remorse before the Penix pick. It was always overpaying for 3500 yards and 18/16 tds/ints. Guy was 35 with a blown ACL so betting against that after being tied to it was correct because then it was his shoulder and elbow. I think even some of the talking heads were talking about Kirk not being what they hoped for when they signed him. I suspect they tried to buy the NFCS crown and had it blow up in their faces. They could have signed anyone else but they went with the too expensive guy that was good at getting into the playoffs at least...before getting bounced lol. It was always a spaz move and I wonder where Blank had his fingers on the scale in the processes.

 

 

I did not realize they had buyer's remorse a few weeks after giving him $90m guaranteed -- how does anyone in the building keep their job after that.  It sounds like the owner got involved--but he should have been involved before signing Cousins. Man, that was bad. 

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I did not realize they had buyer's remorse a few weeks after giving him $90m guaranteed -- how does anyone in the building keep their job after that.  It sounds like the owner got involved--but he should have been involved before signing Cousins. Man, that was bad. 

My take was they didn’t do their due diligence in signing him. His deal is 2 years and they can easily move. It's like they looked up his numbers and said yes that's what we want to buy even if he is close to the end of his career. IDK but it took about a month and a half before they felt like they needed to draft Penix. I also think that after Baker made a return to better form that they thought it was going to be easier. I also don't remember then telling Cousins about it either.

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