So I said......

[Sloth]

John Fox has the best job in the world. No matter how poor his defense does or how much his team quits on him, the fans will call for his assistants heads instead of him because he's such a nice guy.

Because OMG 2003

I agree with you. The coordinators don't matter. If you don't like the Defensive style, your problem is with Foxy, not Trgo.

Foxy loves him some soft zone.

I also wanted to point out that we, at different points, had a LB and our nickle back covering Fitz one on one. That, ladies and gents, pretty much defines "surreal".

[Wanderlai]

I hope Fox refuses to fire Turdo and that leaves Hurney no choice but to let Fox and company go. Does anyone think that if Cowher is offered the Carolina job that he would turn it down? I think he would take it and then let the heads roll!

[WUTKE]

Cowher would accept. Come on he loves the Carolinas, and who really wants to coach for the jets or browns right now

[Pimpdaddy]

I dont know --

TOP 5 RUSHING OFFENSE-

Lead th eleague in Rushing TD's and outscored the league in the 2nd half of the season.

everyone knows we laid an egg last night, but to pretend the offense is the same old bs offense is just RETARDED.

its still the same plays and foxball, Dwill and Stewart bailed Foxes ass out on sheer determination to exceed on a personal level and they just happen to have talent too.

[Ncstatefan]

We'll only let him go if we see a better option on the table

[Fox007]

He better be gone, that's for sure.

[goncrazi]

Because OMG 2003

I agree with you. The coordinators don't matter. If you don't like the Defensive style, your problem is with Foxy, not Trgo.

Foxy loves him some soft zone.

I also wanted to point out that we, at different points, had a LB and our nickle back covering Fitz one on one. That, ladies and gents, pretty much defines "surreal".

Uh... no.

When Fox took over this team in 2002, he called our 2001 defense soft and challenged them to be tougher. He favors hard-hitting defense that shuts down the run, puts pressure on the QB, and capitalizes on mistakes.

Until this year Trgovac has had our defense consistently in the top half of the league, sometimes top ten, so Fox really had little justification for replacing him. I've even been one of those people to support Trgovac (a little) based on that. But last night's game was proof, IMO, that he lacks the ability to adjust well enough when we are struggling to put us in position to win. There is no reason that Arizona should have had 27 in the first half, turnovers or not.

I have long been on record as saying that Del Rio's tenure here was briliant but incomplete and that his ONE season as DC here wasn't enough to warrant the adoration that many gave him. That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing Trgovac replaced with a more aggressive guy, sort of in the mold of Del Rio. I truly believe that our talent level on defense is better than we have played. Henning was replaced because the offense digressed in '06. Now its time to swing the axe the other way.

[Cyberjag]

Cowher would accept. Come on he loves the Carolinas, and who really wants to coach for the jets or browns right now

And then he could spend the next few years remaking the team into one that fits his vision, and another several years in mediocrity before he finally gets a super bowl team.

No thanks. Give me a coordinator on the rise, not a guy on whom the book has been written, read, and discarded by every coach in the league.

Yes, he was good. But so was Joe Gibbs, and how did he do when he came back to coaching?

[WUTKE]

True cyberjag, but you agree changes need to be made

[Sloth]

Uh... no.

When Fox took over this team in 2002, he called our 2001 defense soft and challenged them to be tougher. He favors hard-hitting defense that shuts down the run, puts pressure on the QB, and capitalizes on mistakes.

Until this year Trgovac has had our defense consistently in the top half of the league, sometimes top ten, so Fox really had little justification for replacing him. I've even been one of those people to support Trgovac (a little) based on that. But last night's game was proof, IMO, that he lacks the ability to adjust well enough when we are struggling to put us in position to win. There is no reason that Arizona should have had 27 in the first half, turnovers or not.

I have long been on record as saying that Del Rio's tenure here was briliant but incomplete and that his ONE season as DC here wasn't enough to warrant the adoration that many gave him. That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing Trgovac replaced with a more aggressive guy, sort of in the mold of Del Rio. I truly believe that our talent level on defense is better than we have played. Henning was replaced because the offense digressed in '06. Now its time to swing the axe the other way.

I guess I'd respond that, given the money we were spending on D and, also, our drafting habits, that "top half of the league" doesn't really sound that impressive. Our identity on Defense has been bend-don't-break far more than it has been aggressive. That, and the fact that we seldom correct weaknesses in scheme. TE pass? It's money. Screens? Money. Dump off pass? QB mobility? Cha-ching. Hell, we basically drafted Davis with the entire purpose to contain one QB twice a year because we couldn't coach up lane discipline.

Our entire team philosophy for a while has been to do just enough and hope the other team screws up more. If not, lob it to Smith and hope no one watches the Seahawks.

I also don't buy Davidson as the reason our Offense has improved as much as it has. I actually think Henning was more creative with the passing game at least. Guy was a sacrificial lamb. After burning draft picks, forcing Gross to hopscotch constantly and combing FA for ever, we finally got a nice fit for the line. Williams also really improved himself last off season.

Finally, we wilt like pretty flowers the minute the spotlight thinks about coming our way or anyone expects anything from us. That's mental and that's coaching.