Cleveland Connection: Hiring losers breeds losing

[MHS831]

Start with Scherer. Last year, Jake was floating balls, throwing to areas and not people. He sucked and was sent packing. This year, Moore is doing it, and his three end zone picks were eerily similar.

Scherer took the blame for some of Jake's problems after he arrived in -- Cleveland.

Then there was Anderson and Quinn. Both struggled under Scherer's tutoring.

So, it is possible that Moore is the fourth QB Sherer has screwed up. Enter Clausen. Is he the 5th?

How many QBs will this guy destroy before someone says, "Your resume sucks."

Then there is Davidson, another ex-Brown that should have been flushed. He was hired because he worked with successful people, not because he was successful. When he brought the WRs intight, runing that bunched formation, he was trying to confuse the D. Instead, they stunted and blitzed like crazy. Our OL were the ones confused. A few hurries, a few sacks, and Davidson stayed with it.

We led at the half and we run the ball about 6 times in the second half. We have it first and goal on the 4. Davidson took away our strengths and replaced them with our weakness. How happy do you thing the Giants fans were when we threw it three times on the goal line?

Our OL is not in tune with each other, the WRs and QBs are not on the same page, and the secondary was lost. We were out coached. Do not blame the players. We hired coaches from a losing program and we are now losing. Not a coincidence.

[Dpantherman]

so why does Jake still suck? did Scherer ruin him forever?

[MHS831]

I am just suggesting that he admitted mistakes with Jake. Who knows. But he sure has failed to develop a QB into a proven starter. Moore looked like Jake in 2009 yesterday. He has never looked like Jake in 2009 before. I think the common denominator is Scherer.

Overall, I think our coaches failed miserably. Godfrey running around like a kid who has a dollar and hears the ice cream truck but has no idea where it is. Bernadeau was HORRIBLE. No pressure, rushing 3, dropping DL into coverage, etc. But when Davidson stayed in the tight formation and they were killing us with blitzes--and he continued to stay in it--told me all I need to know about him. If we think Davidson is offensive coordinator material, then I suppose we can assume Scherer knows what he is doing.

I would ask you, who has Scherer developed? What QB sings his praises?

[TarPanther9180]

There may be some truth there. Mike McCoy was a pretty good QB Coach and he is now the offensive coordinator in Denver (Orton threw for almost 300 yards).

[SmootsDaddy89]

Jake sucked because he sucks. He isn't any better with a new setting so far.

Quinn was basically Leinart 2.0. He just wanted to f**k underage Cleveland bitches.

I don't know what Anderson's problem was.

Moore's never had to be THE guy before, and that was my biggest concern with him. Him seemingly folding under the pressure has nothing to do with Scherer.

But please continue regurgitating asinine threads from charlotte.com.

[blackcatgrowl]

For a while my brother has been saying our QB coach is garbage. Maybe he's right.

[SmootsDaddy89]

There may be some truth there. Mike McCoy was a pretty good QB Coach and he is now the offensive coordinator in Denver (Orton threw for almost 300 yards).

Yep Orton's a super awesome QB now, that's why they signed Quinn and traded up to get The Golden Calf of Bristol, because they have a poo ton of confidence in Orton.

[MHS831]

I don't read Charlotte.com. Your rationale is overwhelmingly insightful. "Jake sucked because he sucks." Wow. He sucked all the way to the super bowl. The rest of your points are equally impressive. Thought for a moment, you were going to make a point.

[TarPanther9180]

Yep Orton's a super awesome QB now, that's why they signed Quinn and traded up to get The Golden Calf of Bristol, because they have a poo ton of confidence in Orton.

I'm not saying Orton is a super awesome QB. Just saying McCoy may just have known what he was doing with our QB's. Now we have Cleveland's sloppy seconds for a QB coach.

[Future of the Funchise]

This Scherer person you speak of... Is he really Tommy Jone in disguise.

If so I'm with you. Screw him that guy is a horrible surgeon. He ruined Jake.

*Cries Dramatically*

[MaineManPanther]

I don't read Charlotte.com. Your rationale is overwhelmingly insightful. "Jake sucked because he sucks." Wow. He sucked all the way to the super bowl. The rest of your points are equally impressive. Thought for a moment, you were going to make a point.

Your basing him as a bad coach on Jake's perfomence and one game by Matt Moore.

[ChucktownK]

Belly Chick

[MHS831]

For a while my brother has been saying our QB coach is garbage. Maybe he's right.

Nobody knows, unless your Smoot-time to argue without points-whatever. But there are similarities that I have noticed, and I didn't read it somewhere else. Your brother probably knows a little about football. I asked for someone to name a QB that Scherer has helped, or one that credits him. They don't. Jake is better in Cleveland than he was in Scherer-era Carolina.

For example, Notice that there is little progression down from first to a third option. Your better-coached QBs have time to find three. We stay locked in on one or dump to the second option. I never see the third look.

Last year, Scherer said that he had Jake throwing "timing passes" to areas and not to people. That explains the soft tosses yesterday. When he threw pics, I noticed that Scherer was greeting him at the numbers as he walked off the field. Moore was better when he was not the direct focus of the QB coach.

[MHS831]

Your basing him as a bad coach on Jake's perfomence and one game by Matt Moore.

I think I mentioned the QB fiasco in Cleveland, where 2 other QBs died on the vine.