So if Jimmy throws Smitty under the bus....

[mav1234]

from everything I heard his teammates liked him, and none of 'em felt like he threw them under the buss, so that is all that matters to me.

[Jpjr]

from everything I heard his teammates liked him, and none of 'em felt like he threw them under the buss, so that is all that matters to me.

his teamates unanimously voted him a captain as a junior.

funny how facts like that get conveniently lost by the media.

[mav1234]

his teamates unanimously voted him a captain as a junior.

funny how facts like that get conveniently lost by the media.

I'm still not entirely sure why the media hated the guy, anyway - to me, he actually had all the things they love about quarterbacks.

[The_Cannon]

I'm still not entirely sure why the media hated the guy, anyway - to me, he actually had all the things they love about quarterbacks.

He was a cocky young kid. It probably started with the whole taking a limo to his signing day event which just so happened to take plAce at the football hall of fame. He got a bar fight once at Notre Dame but thats waaaayyy less than other college players. I think the media disliked him because out of all the "whole grain" QBs that were his peers (The Golden Calf of Bristol,McCoy,Bradford, et al) he was the "bad boy" so they tried to make it more than it was.

Bottom line is he's not a locker room cancer, he's not a kid that had to sit out games because he was arestec and nothing he's done since we've drafted him has shown that he's anything less than a good hardworking kid.

[panthers55]

To follow up on Inimicus said earlier, leaders do hold others accountable and definitely should. That shouldn't be done in public ever but in private and not in front of others.

There is a time when public accountability is appropriate though, and that is when players hold themselves accountable and demonstrate the practice to those around them. Leaders look in the mirror first before looking around to others.

[mav1234]

He was a cocky young kid. It probably started with the whole taking a limo to his signing day event which just so happened to take plAce at the football hall of fame. He got a bar fight once at Notre Dame but thats waaaayyy less than other college players. I think the media disliked him because out of all the "whole grain" QBs that were his peers (The Golden Calf of Bristol,McCoy,Bradford, et al) he was the "bad boy" so they tried to make it more than it was.

Bottom line is he's not a locker room cancer, he's not a kid that had to sit out games because he was arestec and nothing he's done since we've drafted him has shown that he's anything less than a good hardworking kid.

I always thought the media loved when people did things like that idiotic limo stunt. I just don't know much about it.

When you put it in perspective with his peers I see why the media looked at him that way.

Honestly, we lucked out. Draft night I wasn't at the TV since we didn't have a first rounder, and when he was chosen in the 2nd round I had no idea he was even available. I basically stared at the screen for a good 5 minutes because I never imagined this team: 1) drafting a qb, and 2) having clausen fall that far...

[Miaoww]

#1 he didn't throw his receiver under a bus. He was asked a question and gave an honest answer.

#2 Clausen would fug Smith up.

[Coitus]

He will not need that eye paint any longer!

[Miaoww]

I'm still not entirely sure why the media hated the guy, anyway - to me, he actually had all the things they love about quarterbacks.

Imagine the coverage he'd have gotten in ND were any good.

[mav1234]

Imagine the coverage he'd have gotten in ND were any good.

haha, I know, scary. We're lucky they weren't, because if ND was any good he wouldn't have fallen to us

[thefuzz]

I was saying that Peyton wasn't throwing people under the bus, not that Jimmy was.

Manning 1 is known for throwing his O line under the bus. Sorry to break it to you.

[Boltergeist]

I wont happen but once and Steve wouldn't have to hit him.

Someone else would do it for him.

Cause if he did, he'd probably break his arm again.

[Razeyfingers]

Bottom line is he's not a locker room cancer, he's not a kid that had to sit out games because he was arestec and nothing he's done since we've drafted him has shown that he's anything less than a good hardworking kid.

I really just wanted to add that, somehow he seems like more of a joker to me. Yeah the limo thing was cocky, but maybe it's ok to pull a stunt like that as long as you see the jest in it yourself. The whole speedo, as well, thing just shows that he's kind of a goofball from time to time.

There is a time when public accountability is appropriate though, and that is when players hold themselves accountable and demonstrate the practice to those around them. Leaders look in the mirror first before looking around to others.

A leader who doesnt strive for perfection (from himself) is only holding his whole team back. . . unless he's perfect I guess.

[PantherFanForLife]

So now it's ok to make fun of Jimmy using this joke? Cause when I said it, I was being a deusche and mean.

Like I said before, if Jimmy doesn't figure out how to think before he talks I'm sure Smith will speed up his maturation process the hard way in a heart beat. ;p