Did Jake at least give you hope?

[charlottenian]

With Delhomme, no matter how bad we were losing I always felt that he was going to get into a gunsling and pull it out in the 4th, I never lost hope even though towards the end he would disappoint more than come through. Under the new era, the moment we are down I am pretty much convinced that Moore/Clausen do not have the intangibles to get it done and pull it out

[Squirrel]

Nope, He scared me everytime he threw the ball. He had fire and could get the team up but once he threw a INT he was toast.

[Dpantherman]

??? what did he do in 2009 to make you think that? everyone watching Jake was in fear that we was going to lose the game instead of win it. thats one reason he isn't on the team anymore.

[Bruce]

He did at for years but towards the end no. It was just time to move on. He will always be one of our better quarterbacks. I understand that doesn't say a lot. At times he was fun to watch.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Jake, for years, gave fans hope.

No matter how far we were down, with Jake at the helm, we always felt like we had a chance.

I'd like to think, that fans will hold onto that even with Jake gone.

Matt obviously couldn't provide, but could Clausen? We'll see. Hope so.

[grateflday]

No. Not last year at all. Prior years then yes.

[Panths]

I get what you're saying. Now it's just watching and waiting for us to implode.

[Lumps]

You can always go be a Brown fan.

[Dpantherman]

I get what you're saying. Now it's just watching and waiting for us to implode.

and what were you doing last year when jake was throwing 18 interceptions?

[rayzor]

correct me if i'm wrong, but clausen hasn't really had a chance to show us if he can do that, has he?

there's quite a bit that has been written from his time at ND that he was able to do that and did it quite a few times. he got fired up and got everyone fired up and playing at a higher level.

let's let the kid play before we start saying he can't help or he can't bring us from behind.

did jake give us confidence? he did until arizona. i did feel like he could pull the team from behind and win but when we played arizona in the playoffs, he lost it.

[Miaoww]

He did at for years but towards the end no. It was just time to move on. He will always be one of our better quarterbacks. I understand that doesn't say a lot. At times he was fun to watch.

God I hope not.

[bigcuz]

With Delhomme, no matter how bad we were losing I always felt that he was going to get into a gunsling and pull it out in the 4th, I never lost hope even though towards the end he would disappoint more than come through.

I understand your feelings. I, too, was a Jake fan ... until he began averaging 7 turnovers a game.

Face it, Jake was always a reckless slinger of the ball and only Wesley Walls's, Smith's and Moose's talent saved him. But after Jake's arm got hurt, he was done. Both the Big Cat and Foxxy gave him the chance to come back but he did not have the physical talent anymore.

Cleveland made a bad decision - my guess is that he will never be any good for any NFL team again ... sad but we have to face the truth.

As for Panthers, expect for Clausen to make some 'rookie' mistakes, but he is a savvy guy and will learn from them and, if we have patience, we will be glad we got him.

[Hairless Cat]

and what were you doing last year when jake was throwing 18 interceptions?

hoping

[Dpantherman]

I don't get the premise here...