2-23

[PantherBrew]

Stats are useless, unless you are judging players.

[frash.exe]

0-135

that's the panthers record when the score at the end of the game is less than their opponent

[panther4life]

0-135

that's the panthers record when the score at the end of the game is less than their opponent

what about when there score is less than their opponents with 15 seconds left?

[frash.exe]

what about when there score is less than their opponents with 15 seconds left?

10-125

[Jangler]

Stats are useless, unless you are judging players.

yup

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1 Dwan Edwards BUF DE 53 30 23 1.0

2 Haloti Ngata BAL DE 46 34 12 5.0

3 Kyle Vanden Bosch DET DE 45 29 16 4.0

4 Justin Tuck NYG DE 44 27 17 4.0

5 Justin Smith SF DE 42 35 7 5.0

6 Trent Cole PHI DE 39 37 2 7.0

7 Mike Devito NYJ DE 38 19 19 0.0

8 Calais Campbell ARI DE 37 27 10 3.0

9 Glenn Dorsey KC DE 37 27 10 0.5

10 Robert Mathis IND DE 35 27 8 7.5

13 Charles Johnson CAR DE 33 26 7 3.5

34 Julius Peppers CHI DE 24 18 6 2.0

[Matt Foley]

At first i thought that was the rams record the past 2 years. Upon further examination it was actually 4-28

The Panthers never lost to the Rams with Peppers on the team. They are 0-3 with Smitty and without Peppers.

[King Taharqa]

Meat has a crush on Smith

I think its cute.

[panthers55]

Who thinks Meat needs to get out more. What an obscure thought process to come up with this. Impressive in it's obtuseness.

[Kevin Greene]

TCKL

24

SCK

2.0

FF

2

INT

1

so these stats would have gotten us a couple of more wins?

Let the Ram lovin' Smitty hater have his thread.

XClown FTW!

[88 Bronco]

and meat is 0-4781 when trying to make jokes

[Montsta]

The Panthers never lost to the Rams with Peppers on the team. They are 0-3 with Smitty and without Peppers.

We won in the '03 playoffs against STL with Smitty and without Peppers.

Peppers, like EVERY SINGLE other playoff game, didn't show up for that one...

Smitty, on the other hand...

[TarPanther9180]

The games where Peppers showed up physically and not mentally should be omitted.

[Matt Foley]

Peppers was the key cog of the Fox era, not Smitty. Does Smitty have more heart? Undoubtedly. But Peppers was the stud Fox built his defense...his signature unit...around. Smitty was always the lesser loved child of the two.

[Jhyler12]

I can see this thread is going to end up pissing me off.

The problem right now is the offense can't get the ball down the field consistently (hell we change QB's every other day). It would be different if the offense was scoring and the problem was with the defense.

It's obvious that these two things have no direct correlation; the only thing they have in common is that the team "got younger" and lost veteran players (some who were good, some who weren't, some who were the FO's fault, and some who weren't).

Agreed...