A Gross miscalculation?

[Panthercougar68]

Funny to think him and Kalil are the only ones on the line right now from 2008 while everyone claims it's a really crappy line. Of course it is, more than half the guys are back ups.

[Baschski]

Funny to think him and Kalil are the only ones on the line right now from 2008 while everyone claims it's a really crappy line. Of course it is, more than half the guys are back ups.

Gross and Kalil are getting beat one on one with guys. That's on them.

Also, Wharton is a legitimate starter playing like ass too.

[Panthercougar68]

Gross and Kalil are getting beat one on one with guys. That's on them.

Also, Wharton is a legitimate starter playing like ass too.

Not as much as you're claiming. Even pro bowlers get beat so yeah they're gonna look stupid at some points. The right side of the line has been constantly beat this year. Yeah its the line but its not like it needs a major renovation, it just needs to get healthy.

[Baschski]

Not as much as you're claiming. Even pro bowlers get beat so yeah they're gonna look stupid at some points. The right side of the line has been constantly beat this year. Yeah its the line but its not like it needs a major renovation, it just needs to get healthy.

Gross has been letting rushers by all season. This isn't a generalization based on one play. It's been a theme.

That said, I still think Kalil and Gross are great players. With a new staff/offense/QB next year and Otah back I'm sure the O-line will go back to playing well. It's just disappointing that they never gave this season a shot when they were supposed to be our strength.

[raleigh-panther]

Jordan Gross is getting an awful lot of money....that's all I can say....he should careless about a lockout...if I had that kind of guaranteed money he has in the bank, why care.

That was a pretty gruesome leg break last year, however, maybe that's part of it...sometimes those things take time.

[Vagrant]

People also forget that our pass protection even with Jake back there was AWFUL last season despite our success on the ground. We blamed everybody else but the offensive line for that problem. Jake is holding onto the ball too long, etc. But in the end, it's just as likely that our guys are simply better at run blocking than they are in protection. It's not really out of the realm of reasonable to suspect that.

When you come off the line to run block, you usually initiate contact with the defender. Not always the case in pass blocking especially for your exterior linemen. When you drop back into pass protection, footwork is important and athleticism is tested. You also have to, as an interior lineman, recognize stunts and coverage shifts.

When you're run blocking, it's pretty straight ahead kind of blocking and strength vs. strength.