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Those who want Cam Newton First overall...

Ricky Spanish

By Ricky Spanish,
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skin color has everything to do with why certain guys get asked questions about work ethic and commitment. And other QBs are naturally assumed to have it. Nothing new to see here. Panther fans being Panther fans. Par for the course.

No one asked about Clausens either. In fact it was used as his selling point as is all our QBs. It damn sure aint their "raw athletic ability". Trust if they could have some, Luck and Clausen would gladly like to have some of that "raw ahtletic ability" to use in their games. It would make them better QBs, hell might even make opposing fans want to watch them play.

it ain't skin color, it is style of play. See The Golden Calf of Bristol.

when running is a big part of what makes you great in college.....it does need to be talked about. B/c very few can effectively do it in the NFL.

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I will say this much.

From what I have seen from Cam, if Smitty had went up to him point his finger in his face, doing what Smitty does, Cam would have manned up and said "Don't drop the easy ones, and I will get you the ball" instead of staring at the scoreboard and acting like he wasn't there.

Same goes for Lucky too

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I think if he were white, no one would worry about his work ethic or cerebral ablility. Or if he's gonna spend all our money on fried chicken and booze if we draft him. Just Panther fans being Panther fans. And not a single person will confront Rhys for it. He speaks for us. No one's asking these questions about Luck, and he's the guy who's actually lost a game. No one prepares harder than Cam Newton. No QB out there is more equipped to dealing with pressure and adversity than Cam Newton. I havent seen or heard anything to make me believe Andrew Luck will thrive in an adverse situation without Jim Harbrough leading him. How do we know this kid will be the same QB without him? We dont.

Look buddy, I haven't come on here praising Luck. I'd also appreciate it if you'd stop making me out to be racist because I believe Newton isn't mature enough for the NFL. If you'd actually read what I'm saying you might understand that. I live in downtown Raleigh, I voted for Obama, and I'm likely to vote for him again in 2012. I could probably talk your ear off about politics. My brother dates a black girl and I'm good friends with her and her family. I work with black people, in fact some of my favorite people at work are black. So it seriously pisses me off when you indirectly accuse me of this and don't read my points. I don't need to convince you of anything, but give me the benefit of the doubt before you go around throwing in these stereotypes of what you think Panthers fans are. You're perpetuating this issue by falsely accusing people when they have logical points that have nothing to do with skin color.

I'll say it again, I question Newton's maturity and motivations given what he has been said to have gone through in his time at college, and those are reservations you do not want to have with a possible franchise QB.

I had these questions about Clausen as well, I found it unnerving when scouts were questioning his attitude, and when 30 or so teams skipped him in the draft, and I yelled out in disgust when the Panthers drafted him. I wanted Golden Tate.

So I'm worried about picking up Newton.

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I will say this much.

From what I have seen from Cam, if Smitty had went up to him point his finger in his face, doing what Smitty does, Cam would have manned up and said "Don't drop the easy ones, and I will get you the ball" instead of staring at the scoreboard and acting like he wasn't there.

Same goes for Lucky too

I think it is clear that we need one of the two of them. I just hope we make the right choice.

I have no idea which of them will be and possibly it could be either.

Rhys,

I don't question why you think as you have posted but I do ask this: Do you think that Cam could "grow up" quickly supposing that he has a maturity issue? I think it is possible hypothetically. Of course I'm not certain that he hasn't already. I will admit that the whole laptop thing was very questionable.

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Luck doesnt have alot "raw athletic ability". If he did, he'd use it. And more than likely his team would not have lost a game because of it. Which is part of the problem for the QBs we already have. They're asked to rely on their "smarts" SOLELY and end up getting crushed in the pocket each week for it.

That's pretty dumb. Luck is exceptionally athletic.

skin color has everything to do with why certain guys get asked questions about work ethic and commitment. And other QBs are naturally assumed to have it. Nothing new to see here. Panther fans being Panther fans. Par for the course..

I agree with this except the bolded part. Stop acting like such a martyr.

No one asked about Clausens either. In fact it was used as his selling point as is all our QBs. It damn sure aint their "raw athletic ability". Trust if they could have some, Luck and Clausen would gladly like to have some of that "raw ahtletic ability" to use in their games. It would make them better QBs, hell might even make opposing fans want to watch them play.

Well, unfortunately for us all, Cam Newton wasn't available at the 42nd pick in last year's draft. Clausen was.

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Yuck

Yea I know, shows you how much I know about college prospects. Mainly I just wanted a WR that could be mediocre quickly, because I was convinced we could do well this year with Moore under center.

Maybe this completely nullifies all my points :lol:

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I think it is clear that we need one of the two of them. I just hope we make the right choice.

I have no idea which of them will be and possibly it could be either.

Rhys,

I don't question why you think as you have posted but I do ask this: Do you think that Cam could "grow up" quickly supposing that he has a maturity issue? I think it is possible hypothetically. Of course I'm not certain that he hasn't already. I will admit that the whole laptop thing was very questionable.

Absolutely he could grow up. That's why he's a risk/reward type of guy. Without those reservations about his maturity I would absolutely want the guy on our team. I mean, given some time to develop his talents to an NFL caliber, he could be extremely dangerous.

If we do draft him, I will be extremely worried, but then also, I would be fairly excited to see if what he could do, and if he could turn into the type of franchise QB we've always wanted.

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i'm telling ya. its a no lose if the Panthers get Luck or Newton. And for the morons who compare Newton to Jamarcus, please read Football for Dummies. Not even close.

The only edge I give to Luck is the coaching and style of offense he has played. That gives him a very very slight advantage.

Newton to me is a taller and faster McNabb. Luck reminds me alot of Aaron Rodgers. I could live with either of those two NFL players on the Panthers and likewise with Cam or Luck.

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