charles johnson vs. julius peppers 2010

[beastson]

Shouts out to CJ

Since last year I was saying he should be a starter. He doing his thang and he only 24

[Montsta]

Love me some CJ. You can't count out Peppers contributions to ST too though. No one I'd rather have when you need a crucial kick blocked.

But he is a Bear, and CJ is a Panther. So that means CJ is awesome and Pep is a turd.

[Matthias]

Peppers is on the downside of his career, while CJ is in his prime. If you asked me who is better, I say CJ is. I think CJ has the opportunity to be better than Peppers ever was if we can get CJ some help at DT. (Remember while Julius was here he had Rucker and Jenkins helping him out. If we can pick up a great DT, CJ may get 16 or more sacks a season. He has the work ethic and ability to do so)

[Darth Urious]

Wow... the homerism resounds...

CJ will never be close to Pep as far as talent/ability/play goes...

If you want to argue heart and effort, maybe you have more of a case, but as an overall player, that is laughable...

[Matthias]

Overall, Peppers numbers speak for themselves, but as for right now CJ has more potential. We get CJ some help, he will definitely put up numbers in the sack column.

[Urrymonster]

CJ doesn't have more potential...

Pep was a freak of nature and is actually tehcnically very sound as well. He had the potential to make a game changing play every time he set foot on the field and won us a lot of games that we shouldn't have.

CJ is just a very high calibre DE who is quality against the run and the pass, however he lacks the game changing plays Pep used to and can still produce.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

NJPanthers12 alt spotted

[Darth Urious]

who you talkin' about, bro?

[thefuzz]

I for one am not upset that Peppers is gone, but to say that Charles Johnson is just as good, or even close is homerism at it's best.

Peppers makes the Bears a better team.

[Dpantherman]

CJ is playing like he wants to be here, Peppers didn't, screw 'em, hes not on this team anymore. Im excited for CJ, and hope hes a panther for the long run. hes earned a new deal, and hopefully one gets worked out. also, you look at the Bears' Dline and look at ours. CJ is doing about the same with less. Hes a baller simply put.

[HSCBandit07]

speaking of pass rushing, how much of Norwood have we seen this year. The guy is invisible

[Urrymonster]

speaking of pass rushing, how much of Norwood have we seen this year. The guy is invisible

17 snaps, with just 13 pass rushes

[Swarly]

Wow... the homerism resounds...

CJ will never be close to Pep as far as talent/ability/play goes...

If you want to argue heart and effort, maybe you have more of a case, but as an overall player, that is laughable...

okay I'm not going to say that Johnson is better than Peppers, because he isn't at the moment. I've seen most Bears games and it is obvious that Peppers is making a huge impact in every game, so his stats(or lack there of) are misleading.. HOWEVER-

it's flat out wrong to say that Johnson will never be close to Peppers in ability/play. you could say he'll never be close to the athlete that Peppers is and it would be closer to the truth(there's only a handful of players in the league that are comparable to Peppers as an athlete..) but to say he'll never be a better player isn't right.

Trent Cole isn't near the athlete that Peppers is, but most would argue that he's the better player(Cole is probably the best complete DE in the league when it comes to pass rushing/defending the run.)

long story short:

fact - Peppers, right now, is the better player and his stats are misleading

NOT a fact - Peppers will always be better than Johnson because he's a better athlete

[HSCBandit07]

17 snaps, with just 13 pass rushes

I know he is a rookie, but I thought he would be higher on the depth chart than Harris or Senn. Senn was a very nice pickup btw. Solid backup and STer