What if we trade the 1st overall pick?

[holycrikey]

Everyone has been clamoring about getting the first overall pick and who we'll select with it. However, what if JR and company don't want the financial burden of a #1 overall? We surely got rid of it the only other time we had it. Seems to me that the Panthers may feel they can get a much better value by getting multiple players versus the first. I think it's even more true if Luck doesn't declare for the draft.

The first overall pick carries considerable weight and is actually difficult to shop out (unless one is willing to drop expectations), but why does everyone think we're so keen on keeping it?

Thoughts?

[Mr. Scot]

In 1995, we were an expansion team. We had about half a roster (if that). Not the same situation, but even then, the #5 pick was very well paid.

Just a few years ago, we had the #2 overall pick, used it, and again paid the player accordingly.

People are letting this year's "youth movement" block out their memory of overall team history.

Yes, we could trade the pick, but if we do it won't be because we don't want to pay.

[mav1234]

because our offense blows and there are a few very nice playmakers on offense we're eyeing.

[CarolinaSock]

Franchise QBs don't grow on trees and one of the most complete prospects in years could possibly be coming out this year. Considering no one else in the draft is nearly as big an impact player as Luck could be, you have to take him. If he doesn't come out then I'm all for trading down as the next 5 to 10 players are fairly similar talent wise.

[Mr. Scot]

John Fox didn't believe in the "franchise QB" model, and yet even he took Jimmy Clausen.

Suggesting that the Panthers don't believe in that idea ignores not only the Clausen pick, but also the fact that they used the very first overall draft pick in team history on a player who they thought would turn out to be just that.

[scarface]

No Luck then:

QB Newton/ Locker/ Mallet/ Gabbert

WR AJ Green/Julio Jones

DT Fairley/ Dareus

CB Peterson/ Amakamura

[Gazi]

You understand that we're paying a Cleveland QB $12 million this year and our coach is a Top 5 coach when discussing salary?

[Rented Mule]

Everyone has been clamoring about getting the first overall pick and who we'll select with it. However, what if JR and company don't want the financial burden of a #1 overall? We surely got rid of it the only other time we had it. Seems to me that the Panthers may feel they can get a much better value by getting multiple players versus the first. I think it's even more true if Luck doesn't declare for the draft.

The first overall pick carries considerable weight and is actually difficult to shop out (unless one is willing to drop expectations), but why does everyone think we're so keen on keeping it?

Thoughts?

There may be a rookie salary cap in place before the draft. It's in everyone's interest to get that done.

[Rented Mule]

John Fox didn't believe in the "franchise QB" model, and yet even he took Jimmy Clausen.

Suggesting that the Panthers don't believe in that idea ignores not only the Clausen pick, but also the fact that they used the very first overall draft pick in team history on a player who they thought would turn out to be just that.

I seriously doubt Fox "took" Clausen.

Clausen was taken for Fox is more like it. I doubt Fox had much of anything to say about it.

[holycrikey]

John Fox didn't believe in the "franchise QB" model, and yet even he took Jimmy Clausen.

Suggesting that the Panthers don't believe in that idea ignores not only the Clausen pick, but also the fact that they used the very first overall draft pick in team history on a player who they thought would turn out to be just that.

I think the Clausen pick is a bit ambiguous. I don't think using that pick on him illustrated that the Panthers want a franchise QB or that they're willing to pay top dollar to a QB. Clausen fell dramatically and at the point he came to us, he was basically chump change for the possibility of him developing. It wasn't terribly risky because they didn't need to invest that much and Fox was holding on by a string. It made sense to take a risk on Clausen due to where he fell in the draft.

But with #1 overall and the money involved (especially when considering the payout Bradford received) it just seems against most of the Panthers philosophy. Would a new coach change that philosophy? Surely to a degree, but I think JR and company are still within that old mindset.

In the end, I think the Panthers will certainly send out feelers on trading it away. I don't think it will happen unless the stars align, but I think it is a possibility, especially if Luck stays in school.

[scarface]

^ What he said.

[cdandi1]

if luck doesn't declare, we should trade back few spots to recoup some picks and then draft DT Nick Fairley, WR AJ Green, or DB Patrick Peterson. /thread

[lymelizzard]

Did Fox pick Clausen? Or did Mr. Hurney pick him or or some one else? How many of the draft picks did Fox pick, how many personnel decisions were Coach Fox's. I can see Armanti being the token local player to boost ratings.

[Panthercougar68]

I think if Lucks there we take him number 1, problem about trading however is that if Luck isn't there I don't see another player that would make people trade up to get. A top DT is nice but people know you can still get talent later rounds. This draft is deep at corner so no ones gonna trade up to get one. In all I think were stuck with the number 1 pick.