Colin Cowherd again.

[C47]

I said I was done with you but screw it

Im not even going to waste my time typing so im going to let someone else do it for me. The only people who actually believe what you're saying are other Panthers fans. The same ones who actually thought that we would be competitive before the season. I will be back later on to show you how everyone who doesnt live and die by the Panthers feel

So you're going to let someone else debate for you. Sounds like you need to go researching at ESPN to me.....

[OneBadassCat]

lol dude Panthers> 49ers

[mav1234]

the 49ers are in a better situation than the Panthers but not by a ton. Our two teams are practically mirrors as someone said earlier. We're both run-first offenses with decent backs, good linebackers on D, and need of a quarterback desperately.

[H2oproof]

So you're going to let someone else debate for you. Sounds like you need to go researching at ESPN to me.....

Im actually not. Im just about to show you how the rest of the nation feels about this. People who dont work themselves up over Panthers football. Most of the posters on this board are homers who think that our team is great no matter who is on our roster. Most of the things people say here are laughable but you guys have strength in numbers. This board is a joke but I digress

I will post the results later today

[mav1234]

Im actually not. Im just about to show you how the rest of the nation feels about this. People who dont work themselves up over Panthers football. Most of the posters on this board are homers who think that our team is great no matter who is on our roster. Most of the things people say here are laughable but you guys have strength in numbers. This board is a joke but I digress

I will post the results later today

it sure is a good thing that the "rest of the nation" is an accurate indicator of the Panthers. :smilielol5:

edit: Obviously we're bias. We're FANS for a reason. Just because you think our team is total poo doesn't mean you're unbias. This team has a whole TON of problems, but saying that the 49ers are that much better off is just... ignorant. Especially when you're talking about the potential desire for a coach to come and coach HIS quarterback.

Now our FO may not want Harbaugh, but that is different than HIM not wanting us.

[Sloth]

Im actually not. Im just about to show you how the rest of the nation feels about this. People who dont work themselves up over Panthers football. Most of the posters on this board are homers who think that our team is great no matter who is on our roster. Most of the things people say here are laughable but you guys have strength in numbers. This board is a joke but I digress

I will post the results later today

Hey guys Im gonna post a poll on some other shitty messageboard and ask people who have never seen the Panthers outside of youtube clips and fantasy football stats who is better.

[H2oproof]

You also seem to think very little of the team... the 49ers are not that much better than we are. They are not "instant contenders" with a new coach (though they do benefit from being in the NFCWest).

DID YOU SEE OUR RECORD? DO YOU SEE OUR ROSTER? DID YOU SEE THE IDIOT MOVES THAT OUR FRONT OFFICE MADE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS?

What makes you think that im going to think highly of a team who continues to take steps backwards? Why WOULDNT I think little of my team at this point?

I stand by my team but if you think im going to sugar coat poo just so I can feel better about my teams situation (which it looks like alot of people up here do) then you're crazy.

And I never said SF was an instant contender but a better coach would have them in the playoffs right now. That is a fact

[NJPanthers89]

We beat the 49ers didnt we?

[48ochoshogun]

What makes the 49ers roster so much better then our own. Their LBs....nope ours are just as good. Their secondary....no they are both average. They have a big name guy in Nate Clemments but that didn't help him against David Gettis. Their d-line....we are one pocket collapsing d tackle away from being more then solid there. We both have below average QB play. Both teams only have one legit WR and while the 9ers have Vernon I'm not ready to say Rosario or Barnidge couldn't make those kinds of plays for us with better QB play. So I ask again where is the 49ers roster so much better then ours. The 49ers also don't have our cap room bro.....

Actually 49ers Have Morgan & Crabtree as legit wideouts. If Dominique was used more consistent , would be three, Oh, & Delanie walker that falls on coaching. & Barnidge & Rosario couldn't land the kind of success Vernon had even with a better QB, just No.

--The coaching staff for the 49ers was horrible with the kind of talent the 49ers have. Doesnt take a 1st grader to realize that. Panthers coaching atleast had a pass rusher.

--49ers LB core was better than the Panthers this year.

You've got Beason against P. Willis. Who else stood out from Panthers LB core? 49ers, Spikes & Willis we're good in front of a abyismal secondary. Everyone knows the 49ers lack a Secondary+Pass rusher.

--Panthers Secondary was far better exceptionally than the 49ers this year. Just way better.

--In terms of D-Line, Panthers at least could execute a constant pass rush.

--In tune, 49ers offense>Panthers Offense.

Panthers IMO had a better defense.

--The thing is 49ers Offense can be damn good IF you had a offensive minded coach. You got RB's, You got a Pro Bowl TE, and a slew of WR's, and a O Line that'll be way better than last year. Can be Dynamic with a QB & Coach.

--The thing with "Carolina has just as much talent' An argument could be made there but SF has pieces you could utilize immediately and create a dynamic offense if you insert a QB e.g. Luck. That and being a storied franchise doesnt hurt. Carolina still has as many holes as SF does but you honestly believe Hurney gonna select Luck with that QB outing he had last year? A trade will happen & If SF lands Harbaugh, SF gonna offer lotta picks, Hurney will accept. Luck in a Carolina Jersey not gon happen

[mav1234]

DID YOU SEE OUR RECORD? DO YOU SEE OUR ROSTER? DID YOU SEE THE IDIOT MOVES THAT OUR FRONT OFFICE MADE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS?

What makes you think that im going to think highly of a team who continues to take steps backwards? Why WOULDNT I think little of my team at this point?

I stand by my team but if you think im going to sugar coat poo just so I can feel better about my teams situation (which it looks like alot of people up here do) then you're crazy.

And I never said SF was an instant contender but a better coach would have them in the playoffs right now. That is a fact

"the last few years"?? You and I just disagree... JR wanted the team to win in 2008 and 2009. I see an owner who prepared his team for a changing of the guard and possible lockout this year. You see... "idiot moves." While Hurney has made some strange choices in the draft, we've also got one of the best young cores in the league. If JR locks them up this team could content very quickly with a good coach and up and coming QB.

Strangely enough that is the EXACT situation San Fran is in. Obviously they are a slightly better team, but we DID beat them and they had issues beyond coaching...

They need a new quarterback. They need to recover players from injuries and have them bounce back strong. They need a defense to stay strong and continue to improve.

The thing with "Carolina has just as much talent' An argument could be made there but SF has pieces you could utilize immediately and create a dynamic offense if you insert a QB e.g. Luck. That and being a storied franchise doesnt hurt. Carolina still has as many holes as SF does but you honestly believe Hurney gonna select Luck with that QB outing he had last year? A trade will happen & If SF lands Harbaugh, SF gonna offer lotta picks, Hurney will accept. Luck in a Carolina Jersey not gon happen

Did you even watch our quarterbacks play this year? It is the SINGLE largest area of need. You know what Hurney did when we had Dwill? He drafted Stew. He isn't afraid to go BPA. He will do it again. You'd need to mortgage your entire franchise for the pick if Luck comes out.

BTW, I am glad you agree an argument can be made that we have just as much talent.

IMO, your receiving corp is a bit better due to experience but I think our defense is a bit better. Overall it's a wash. We both need big help.

[H2oproof]

Hey guys Im gonna post a poll on some other shitty messageboard and ask people who have never seen the Panthers outside of youtube clips and fantasy football stats who is better.

Yea because most football fans have never seen the panthers play. They just watch them on youtube.

[Floppin]

Actually 49ers Have Morgan & Crabtree as legit wideouts. If Dominique was used more consistent , would be three, Oh, & Delanie walker that falls on coaching. & Barnidge & Rosario couldn't land the kind of success Vernon had even with a better QB, just No.

--The coaching staff for the 49ers was horrible with the kind of talent the 49ers have. Doesnt take a 1st grader to realize that. Panthers coaching atleast had a pass rusher.

--49ers LB core was better than the Panthers this year.

You've got Beason against P. Willis. Who else stood out from Panthers LB core? 49ers, Spikes & Willis we're good in front of a abyismal secondary. Everyone knows the 49ers lack a Secondary+Pass rusher.

--Panthers Secondary was far better exceptionally than the 49ers this year. Just way better.

--In terms of D-Line, Panthers at least could execute a constant pass rush.

--In tune, 49ers offense>Panthers Offense.

Panthers IMO had a better defense.

--The thing is 49ers Offense can be damn good IF you had a offensive minded coach. You got RB's, You got a Pro Bowl TE, and a slew of WR's, and a O Line that'll be way better than last year. Can be Dynamic with a QB & Coach.

--The thing with "Carolina has just as much talent' An argument could be made there but SF has pieces you could utilize immediately and create a dynamic offense if you insert a QB e.g. Luck. That and being a storied franchise doesnt hurt. Carolina still has as many holes as SF does but you honestly believe Hurney gonna select Luck with that QB outing he had last year? A trade will happen & If SF lands Harbaugh, SF gonna offer lotta picks, Hurney will accept. Luck in a Carolina Jersey not gon happen

That was entirely to hard to decipher.

[mav1234]

Yea because most football fans have never seen the panthers play. They just watch them on youtube.

gonna say they haven't even done that if they think we're set at quarterback & wouldn't take Andrew Luck. (no offense intended to the above poster)

[C47]

Actually 49ers Have Morgan & Crabtree as legit wideouts. If Dominique was used more consistent , would be three, Oh, & Delanie walker that falls on coaching. & Barnidge & Rosario couldn't land the kind of success Vernon had even with a better QB, just No.

--The coaching staff for the 49ers was horrible with the kind of talent the 49ers have. Doesnt take a 1st grader to realize that. Panthers coaching atleast had a pass rusher.

--49ers LB core was better than the Panthers this year.

You've got Beason against P. Willis. Who else stood out from Panthers LB core? 49ers, Spikes & Willis we're good in front of a abyismal secondary. Everyone knows the 49ers lack a Secondary+Pass rusher.

--Panthers Secondary was far better exceptionally than the 49ers this year. Just way better.

--In terms of D-Line, Panthers at least could execute a constant pass rush.

--In tune, 49ers offense>Panthers Offense.

Panthers IMO had a better defense.

--The thing is 49ers Offense can be damn good IF you had a offensive minded coach. You got RB's, You got a Pro Bowl TE, and a slew of WR's, and a O Line that'll be way better than last year. Can be Dynamic with a QB & Coach.

--The thing with "Carolina has just as much talent' An argument could be made there but SF has pieces you could utilize immediately and create a dynamic offense if you insert a QB e.g. Luck. That and being a storied franchise doesnt hurt. Carolina still has as many holes as SF does but you honestly believe Hurney gonna select Luck with that QB outing he had last year? A trade will happen & If SF lands Harbaugh, SF gonna offer lotta picks, Hurney will accept. Luck in a Carolina Jersey not gon happen

Why do you think Hurney was happy with the QB play and will accept Clausen at QB next year. Just wondering....