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As much as I want Harbuagh, Schottenhiemer makes more sense

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I wanted Harbaugh really bad, I really did, but he is a TREMENDOUS risk to take coming out of the college ranks. Isn't Jimmy Johnson the only successful collegiate/NFL coach? Didn't all the other collegiate to NFL coaches look just as good and fiery as Harbaugh in college only to look not only pedestrian but abysmal in the NFL?

I read this last night, but it makes a lot of sense:

It's a big, fat Harbaugh Derby. The winner gets the college coach who can't miss. And don't you wonder whether any aspect of this chase rings familiar to Spurrier (12-20 in the NFL) or Saban (15-17) or Petrino (3-10) or Davis (24-34) or, say, Mike Riley (14-34)?

None of the situations compares exactly with Harbaugh's, of course. In several of those instances, the coaches in question had longer NFL assistantships in their backgrounds, though they were known primarily for winning at the college level. (Harbaugh spent two seasons on the Oakland Raiders' staff.) Dennis Erickson did a couple of full NFL head-coaching stints in between his various NCAA jobs; his record at the pro level was 40-56.

But what all these coaches shared was heat. Each man had it at some point or other, and some, like Spurrier and Saban, never really lost it. Every one of them knows what it's like to have the football world blinded by your most recent success -- fooled, that is, into thinking you've got the answers regardless of whether you ever suggest that you actually do.

Harbaugh has spent four years at Stanford and posted winning records in two of them. It's no diminishment of the man's accomplishment, because the team was 1-11 the year before he arrived. Still, it's a 28-21 cumulative record as the Cardinal's head man. Solid; terribly promising; but not yet any sort of global achievement.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=kreidler/110103

Yea, that line shifting was cool but it gets stale after a few seasons and you need something consistent. Not to say Harbaugh can't do it at the NFL level successfully over a long period of time its just not a good chance. Brian Schottenhiemer however has proven he is capable to develop rookie QB's into good players and he is capable of installing a consistantly winning offense (two years in the row to the playoffs, first time to the AFC Championship).

On a side note, I would still love Harbaugh if he came here, its just I see Schottenhiemer as the best choice now and have changed my list from Harbaugh, Schotty, Rivera to Schotty, Harbaugh, Rivera.

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schotty is a lot better than what the jets look like. he is known for being an offensive genius whose schemes are too complex for sanchez. in fact sanchez had to ask schotty to simplify things for him and ryan had to step in as well. the main issue that i have with schotty is his maturity and the main problem i see from him is actually being too aggressive and not knowing when to tap the brakes, but i think that will come in time and he has actually done better this year.

luck has a lot more football intelligence than sanchez and is a lot smarter overall so i think that luck would be a lot better able to handle schotty's complex schemes...i mean look at the stuff that stanford was pulling and the size of that playbook he had. of all the available options other than harbaugh, schotty is the one i would most want from an offensive minded PoV.

another thing about schotty, though...i just don't know about him as a leader. although i don't see him being as stupid and imature as mcdaniels, i just don't know if he is ready for that role. it could be his real niche is that of an OC and is where he should stay. if we got in a defensive minded coach and drafted luck then maybe schotty with more free reign and control over the offense would work.

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