Good lord, stop protecting Jimmy

[Jhyler12]

He has gotten better but he is just not a starting NFL QB, maybe a backup but never a true starter.

[MHS831]

Did you ever expect a second-round rookie to be successful in these conditions? WHen has that ever happened? Find a rookie who

a) was drafted in the second round or later

had a lame duck staff

c) had 3 starters on the offensive line on IR

d) had 2 rookie WRs

[Jhyler12]

I def. didn't, I didn't have faith in him to begin with. I just hoped like everyone else that he would turn out to be something, but hes not...

[panthers55]

Did you ever expect a second-round rookie to be successful in these conditions? WHen has that ever happened? Find a rookie who

a) was drafted in the second round or later

had a lame duck staff

c) had 3 starters on the offensive line on IR

d) had 2 rookie WRs

a)You are working way too hard with the excuses. There are plenty of guys who were drafted 2nd round or worse that played better than Clausen. Just this year McCoy was a third rounder for a pretty bad team and looked better than Clausen. There are other examples.

Sure Fox was a lame duck coach but the players didn't quit on him and Clausen was given opportunities.

c) the offensive line improved over the year as evidenced by the running game getting better. What didn't improve was Clausen's performance over the year. He got some junk time TDS to look better statistically but he didn't show much improvement from first to second half of the season.

d) He also had a probowl receiver that he consistently couldn't get the ball to. He chose to throw the ball to Gettis and LaFell over Smitty so really it is hard to see that as anything but a problem of his own making.

[Carl Spackler]

To be fair I'd rather him throw it to Lafell or Gettis than Smith, they're more reliable.

[panthers55]

To be fair I'd rather him throw it to Lafell or Gettis than Smith, they're more reliable.

That wasn't the reason Clausen didn't throw to Smith. Becuase Smith is smaller and is often double covered you have to be more accurate in your throws. Plus you have to wait for him to uncover which means you have to hold the ball and buy time. Clausen gave up on Smith if he wasn't open right away and went to the checkdown. Plus he had trouble throwing to spots and wanted to see the receiver wide open before he would throw it. So he primarily picked the guys who were in single coverage against a safety or linebacker. Not a bad strategy but it means you are throwing to your third receiver who isn't going to make tough catches.

[Carl Spackler]

Yes, but one of the reasons he had to look away if he wasn't open was the little matter of a defensive lineman and/or linebacker barreling down on him after a lineman or Goodson missed another block.

[Jhyler12]

Everyone just face it, Clausen is not the answer and never will be...

[CRA]

Yes, but one of the reasons he had to look away if he wasn't open was the little matter of a defensive lineman and/or linebacker barreling down on him after a lineman or Goodson missed another block.

nah, Jimmy is just a horrible decision maker and afraid to make throws. Just about every QB in the NFL sees the type pressure Clausen saw this season.

[Carl Spackler]

nah, Jimmy is just a horrible decision maker and afraid to make throws. Just about every QB in the NFL sees the type pressure Clausen saw this season.

Bullshit. Get your facts straight and your anti-Clausen bias out of the way. Go watch another team's games. In no way, shape or form does the DL come through so easily. At least be fair here.

[CRA]

Bullshit. Get your facts straight and your anti-Clausen bias out of the way. Go watch another team's games. In no way, shape or form does the DL come through so easily. At least be fair here.

bullshit. you watch other teams play. Pressure wasn't unique to Clausen/Carolina.....the way Clausen reacts to the pressure and his decision making was the real issue.

[Carl Spackler]

bullshit. you watch other teams play. Pressure wasn't unique to Clausen/Carolina.....the way Clausen reacts to the pressure and his decision making was the real issue.

Jesus Christ. You think every other team's QB had 1.5 seconds to make a throw? Really?? I thought you were smarter than that.

[Carolina Husker]

Yeah. There's no real debate about it. He looked awful from the get-green and didn't improve much from then on.

Could he get better? Sure. Will he? Probably. Will he ever be an effective NFL QB? I doubt it.

Do I like to ask myself questions and then answer them? Yes. Yes I do.

[CRA]

Jesus Christ. You think every other team's QB had 1.5 seconds to make a throw? Really?? I thought you were smarter than that.

Jimmy didn't have 1.5 seconds to make a throw every time. Given time and the results aren't much different.....something you don't seem to realize.

Go back and watch thet last matchup between the Saints/Atlanta. Two of our division rivals. QBs face the same pressure Jimmy did often.....they just make plays despite it therefore it is never made into a huge issue.