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Why do people keep mentioning JR when it comes to drafting or signing players?

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JR will NOT be deciding our roster. LOL! It's ridiculous to think that. People need to stop.

And I haven't heard anyone from the club, or media, or inside source make the statement that JR is rebuilding the franchise in HIS philosophy all by himself. All that means is JR will find a coach with a different philosophy similar to what he wants but let him and the GM do their damn jobs.

Jerry Jones is the only owner I know that gets that involved in roster building.

Apparently everyone is confused by what you mean roster building.

Because every owner in the NFL builds their roster. They choose who to pay and who not to.

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So you're telling me that Hurney just signs players and then he let's JR know after the fact?

Besides, money is what drives the league. So yeah, I'd say JR has his fair share of say in the matter.

I think what he's talking about the football side of things not the buisness side. He's commenting on how people are suddenly talking about JR like he's a GM even though he never has been. Even then I doubt JR does anymore than sign the check.

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I think what he's talking about the football side of things not the buisness side. He's commenting on how people are suddenly talking about JR like he's a GM even though he never has been. Even then I doubt JR does anymore than sign the check.

I get what you're saying, but doesn't signing the check build the roster?

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I think what he's talking about the football side of things not the buisness side. He's commenting on how people are suddenly talking about JR like he's a GM even though he never has been. Even then I doubt JR does anymore than sign the check.

Exactly. People saying things like "I don't think JR will draft Fairley because....".

Just a meaningless statement. Of course JR won't draft Fairley or anyone else. He knows jack poo when it comes to finding the guys with the right abilities for the right positions that our team needs.

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It's pretty safe to say that people mention JR when it comes to signing and drafting players right now because he's taken an active interest in the football side of things lately. JR is ultimately the boss and if he sets a strategy / goal / direction for the team it will be followed.

I don't personally think he'll be miromanaging the draft but it would be folly not to think his input is steering the direction of this team right now.

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It's pretty safe to say that people mention JR when it comes to signing and drafting players right now because he's taken an active interest in the football side of things lately. JR is ultimately the boss and if he sets a strategy / goal / direction for the team it will be followed.

I don't personally think he'll be miromanaging the draft but it would be folly not to think his input is steering the direction of this team right now.

You really think the owner of our team has detailed stats and sheets on the strengths, weaknesses of our players, our defensive, offensive, special teams schemes, the playbook and what type of players the coach would need to make things work, not to mention scouting reports on draft prospects with strengths, weakness, on each player, etc...in order for him to actually make an educated decision?

Just think about it for a second. I am willing to bet there are players right now on our team or practice squad that JR doesn't even know their names.

PS: JR doesn't actually sign checks at the end of the month like everybody thinks either. LOL.

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PS: JR doesn't actually sign checks at the end of the month like everybody thinks either. LOL.

LOL

We know.

It's called a contract.

They fulfill their end, he fulfills his.

Dude, do you not understand how a business works?

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You really think the owner of our team has detailed stats and sheets on the strengths, weaknesses of our players, our defensive, offensive, special teams schemes, the playbook and what type of players the coach would need to make things work, not to mention scouting reports on draft prospects with strengths, weakness, on each player, etc...in order for him to actually make an educated decision?

Just think about it for a second.

I'd like you to point out the part of my post where I said those things.

What I said is that he's mentioned because he's going to have input. In fact I pretty plainly said I didn't think he would micromanage the draft. But you are foolish if you think he doesn't have some input on the decision and even moreso if you don't think his input is shaping the overall direction of the team at the moment.

The nutshell Cliff's Notes version? He's mentioned because he'll have some input...and having input PLUS being the owner makes you relevant.

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JR will NOT be deciding our roster. LOL! It's ridiculous to think that. People need to stop.

And I haven't heard anyone from the club, or media, or inside source make the statement that JR is rebuilding the franchise in HIS philosophy all by himself. All that means is JR will find a coach with a different philosophy similar to what he wants but let him and the GM do their damn jobs.

Jerry Jones is the only owner I know that gets that involved in roster building.

I understand what you are saying. What I believe is that JR doesn't exactly pick players/coaches but suggest to our GM/coach on what he wants our team to do. For example he wants our team to be young so he tell Hurney that we need a youth movement and Hurney cuts vets. I Don't think he has decided who we draft but I think he will this year considering we will have a new coach and JR has said he wants our offense to change from being conservative, so Hurney should know to get a new OC and players to fit his scheme.

I think JR might not choose our 1st pick but he will tell our GM which direction he wants us to improve for example he tells Hurney he wants us to improve our offense so Hurney makes sure we draft AJ Green.

Am I making Sense?

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PS: JR doesn't actually sign checks at the end of the month like everybody thinks either. LOL.

It's a figure of speech - FFS. The owner of any decent sized company very rarely actually signs a check...but the phrase is still used. If you weren't looking for semantics to argue you'd probably use the phrase yourself.

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