ESPN's Top 10 Impact Rookies(non-1st Round)

[SmokinwithWilly]

8 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/story/_/id/45025476/2025-nfl-draft-ranking-rookie-year-impact-mid-late-rounders

 

Full disclosure, was not at all a fan of this pick in the 2nd BECAUSE I generally view him as being very limited in his pass rush ability. 

That said, he does have the makeup to be very capable of replacing Clowney, long term.

I'm not a big fan of the sack statistic over actually being disruptive. Burns showed us that. Yeah, he'd get sacks, but he wasn't a consistent disruptive force on the edge. I'd rather see 0 sacks and causing problems on drop back half of the time. 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, rmoneyg35 said:

Honestly I expect more from Princely Umanmielen than Scourton this year. Scourton is only 20 years old and won’t be 21 until August where Princley is 23 and was a 5th senior with 2 different SEC teams. They are different kinds of players and Scourton may even get more reps on the rushing downs but I can see Princely getting more sacks.

I agree. I think Umanmielen will end up being the better pass rusher.

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm not a big fan of the sack statistic over actually being disruptive. Burns showed us that. Yeah, he'd get sacks, but he wasn't a consistent disruptive force on the edge. I'd rather see 0 sacks and causing problems on drop back half of the time. 

Actually the biggest criticism of Burns was usually that he generated lots of pressures(top 10 more than once) but he was rarely able to finish.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Actually the biggest criticism of Burns was usually that he generated lots of pressures(top 10 more than once) but he was rarely able to finish.

Yea Burns shed enough blocks to be a 15+ sack a year guy, but he whiffs the QB at least once a week.

[carpanfan96]

48 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Actually the biggest criticism of Burns was usually that he generated lots of pressures(top 10 more than once) but he was rarely able to finish.

He was consistently top ten in pressures and win rate on pass rushes. Just doesn't get sacks. Lol

[carpanfan96]

I like Scourton's chance of being on the field for 3 downs as the strong side OLB. He's the starter there now and it's his job to win/lose leaving camp. Umanmielen has to get past both Patrick Jones and Wonum to even see the field. 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

I like Scourton's chance of being on the field for 3 downs as the strong side OLB. He's the starter there now and it's his job to win/lose leaving camp. Umanmielen has to get past both Patrick Jones and Wonum to even see the field. 

I don't think Jones and Wonnum are gonna exactly be stiff competition. If he can't beat those guys, he isn't likely to be ready to play.