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My hope for an ending to the musical chairs at kicker is waning


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13 minutes ago, csx said:

The year before was like 6th or 8th on the season. The best ever was combining spot duty with the first half of 2022. Cherry picking at best. He's been nowhere near that since

You cant spin him in to a good kicker. He's unemployed 

Good isn't the bar, better than what we have is.

The point is we keep getting worse at the position, not better. That trend can't continue.

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2 hours ago, lightsout said:

 

He only missed a couple from 50+. Truth is, we didn't get many chances to gamble those. Our offense was abysmal and the last thing you want to do is ask your kicker to attempt a 50+ yarder every offensive possession because it is just harder to do consistently. That's how you crush a kicker's confidence and break him if he starts routinely missing those. He was automatic up to 40, and very accurate up to 50. Eddy wasn't the best in the league but he definitely wasn't the worst. The only thing hurting him was his declining FG% year to year. If he has an up spike there in his last year, even just a bit, he's still here 

I feel like hindsight is getting the best of you here.  We were consistently complaining about Eddy's leg at that time.  He's not worth paying top dollar.

We have had a decent track record on picking kickers that are good enough.  Automatic up to 40 is exactly the problem.  He is good from less than 40, but that isn't a high bar.

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29 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

In his defense, and really, all kickers... if you're regularly needing to kick 50+ yarders, then there's a problem with the offense.

But yeah, he was bottom third of the league level. 

Still, it's hard to find someone who can be top 2/3 of the league level.

Kickers, man, they'll kill ya.

I know our offense was stalling, and that is not on Eddy, but I just feel you shouldn't be making decisions based on your lack of confidence in your kicker.

If it is a situation you need a field goal, you shouldn't be hesitating to send your guy out.  We were, and that is very telling.  If you can't trust him there, is he really the guy you want when the game is on the line?

That is not even getting into the attitude.  I am ready to be done with Eddy.

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4 minutes ago, Super Grateful said:

I too have concerns about us not drafting one of the top kickers and instead waiting to rely on a UDFA from FSU to be our starting kicker.

Generally you don't draft kickers.  Only two were selected this year in the draft.  We still got one of the top prospects available.

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25 minutes ago, Super Grateful said:

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I said generally.  We got Jimmy Horn with a 6th.  Would you rather have drafted a kicker instead of getting Jimmy?

Like I said, we still got one of the top kickers available.  I don't know why so many are hating on the kid.  Give him a chance.  He has quite the resume.  Dogging him before he even steps on the field?

Butker is a little nutty from what I hear.

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I don't understand what some of you are complaining about with not drafting a kicker.  What kicker do you guys think we missed out on with only two selected in the draft?  Fitz was like #2 or #3 in the rankings.

Unless you think we missed on Borregales, which we would have had to use a 5th round pick to get, I don't see what the argument is here.

We got our guy without using a draft pick.  Give him a chance.

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40 minutes ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

bring back zane gonzalez

he was pretty solid here as long as he wasn't getting injured during pregame warm ups

Eh. He was good for us but his career has been even less impressive than Pinero. 

 

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2 hours ago, BlazeCarolina said:

 He has quite the resume.  Dogging him before he even steps on the field?

His resumé is solid. He stepped it up his last two seasons, I'll give him that. That's all though. He's in the big boy league now, and missing kicks in practice isn't going to give anyone fuzzy feelings. Accuracy, at all times, on the field and in practice, will make the "dogging" cease.

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2 hours ago, TD alt said:

His resumé is solid. He stepped it up his last two seasons, I'll give him that. That's all though. He's in the big boy league now, and missing kicks in practice isn't going to give anyone fuzzy feelings. Accuracy, at all times, on the field and in practice, will make the "dogging" cease.

Is he actually even missing kicks?  All I have heard is that he missing on the skinny posts, and that if it were regulation, he would have made it.

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23 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Is he actually even missing kicks?  All I have heard is that he missing on the skinny posts, and that if it were regulation, he would have made it.

I heard that one day out of like five and was reported by a tweet from Joe Person. Unless Person was right there on them or heard it from the coach, I don't know how he drew his conclusion. That being said, I have become aware that regulation posts are 18½ feet wide, while the so-called skinny posts are 9 feet wide. That's a big difference. The skinny posts are supposed to help with aiming and accuracy when it comes to the regulation posts. This makes me feel a little better, however I don't see anyone consistently saying, "That would've been good on Sundays." It would be nice to know the specifics every time they practice.

Of course, Fitzgerald was one for three on regulation posts last night. I saw it somewhere that the misses were 40-50 something yards away (as well as the make). 

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