Can we all admit it now?

[Loyalty4Life]

6 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

You’re calling players “serviceable” which is a meaningless subjective descriptor then backing that up with stats across vastly different eras of football without any context. 

Youre being disingenuous and annoying. 

That was what George called them.  That was his descriptor.  Drop all those if it makes you feel better  The whole convo is highly subjective.  We're not exactly following the scientific method here.  Serviceable was the low bar he set.  He also said star.  I think we can both agree that Steve Young was a star.

He didn't ask for any parameters.  He didn't ask for any context.  If he did, I would have answered differently. 

I don't think anyone would argue all of those players had rocky starts to their career which they overcame. 

 

[WhoKnows]

17 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Tedy blew the game? What game were you watching?

Dude was the only reason they were in it. 

this was agains the chiefs, sorry. 

You’re right. I was thinking of the GB game with the silly reach for the goal line when he wasn’t close that turned into a goal line fumble. I do remember all the discussions in here about end of the game interceptions and bad passes, etc. but that wasn’t against the Chiefs.

That said, still the best season by a QB since Cam. Best 4 game run was Darnold to start 2021, but best full season was Teddy. That makes me really sad.

[WhoKnows]

16 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I don't want us to be the Browns.

Hate to tell you this, but we are the Browns. Since the hot start to 2018, we are now 30-71. We’ve averaged 5-12 for soon to be 7.5 years. No playoffs for soon to be 8 years. Right now we are tied with Atlanta for the second worst playoff drought (Jets first). We are firmly tied for 2nd place since the 4th place teams are 3 fewer years.