Should we roll the dice on....

[Jay Roosevelt]

20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's similar to Bryce though. I agree with you on Shedeur as a college QB. Absolutely. In terms of NFL prospects though, I would always point out that he doesn't have a single plus trait as an NFL QB. There's nothing about his measurables that are above average for an NFL QB. And then you had the playing style issue. Running around to buy time before chucking up a prayer to your elite NFL prospect teammate wasn't going to translate. I said the same thing about Shedeur that I said about Bryce, it's hard for me to look at his college play and point out many plays that I can say "See, that right there translates to the NFL. That works on Sundays."

I don't disagree, but to be fair the college game is so dumbed down sometimes it can be hard to even evaluate QBs on tape. You look at Cam's Heisman year at Auburn, there's honestly not a lot that translated to the NFL. But Cam ended up translating very well. He could absolutely do a lot of things that translated to the NFL, but just wasn't asked to in Auburn's college-style option offense.

The one quality that I feel translates best to the NFL is when a guy can carry a team that's not stacked with talent. Bryce won a Heisman surrounded by elite talent, many of whom are NFL stars today and still couldn't win a National Championship. Cam was surrounded by a bunch of average (at best) college players that never made it in the NFL, and yet he won both a Heisman and a National Championship.

Guys that can take average (or even below average) talent in college and both win games and put up big numbers are the players I think NFL teams need to look at. That's not to say that there haven't been great QBs who were surrounded by great talent in college too (Joe Burrow, for example) but a guy who can overcome a lack of talent around him and still be great is someone who I think has a leg up once they get to the NFL.

[Butterflyj30]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just think they really misunderstood Shedeur's draft prospects. Travis Hunter was a legit elite NFL prospect. Shedeur wasn't. Shiloh wasn't NFL caliber, period. They just really thought that Shedeur was right up there with Hunter in terms of NFL draft stock and I never saw it. Even when the media was following right along with Deion barking about it. I got called a hater saying all along that Shedeur wasn't a 1st round prospect. He seemed like the stereotypical good college QB that had a lot of questions marks in terms of translating to the NFL that typically goes somewhere on the mid-rounds.

I totally agree with this I felt that he would fall in the draft I don't think he did as good at Colorado as they built it up to believe