Something new to argue vehemently about.

[UnluckyforSome]

15 minutes ago, d-dave said:

That's pretty cool.  I don't care about the garbage versus not-garbage time non-sense.  You play what you have to play, and everyone has garbage time one way or another.

After all, if you don't win before the game starts, then are you really a winner?  Isn't it all garbage time anyway?  (Sarcasm with a capital S)

Well, to some extent. Some people believe Stafford is a shoe-in for the HOF. Alternatively, some folks think he is a very skilled stat compiler.

I guess there is a difference in some minds about the circumstances and perspective.

[Khyber53]

11 hours ago, cranky said:

Don't forget about the Bills

Odd stuff happening there, but they seem, historically, like a team that can sort things out.

[d-dave]

10 hours ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Well, to some extent. Some people believe Stafford is a shoe-in for the HOF. Alternatively, some folks think he is a very skilled stat compiler.

I guess there is a difference in some minds about the circumstances and perspective.

I agree that perspective is important.  I also think that it's fine to take the wins when you can.  So the Panthers have started playing a lot better against bad teams after the first couple of weeks.  Cool, I'll take that.  Will it continue?  I don't know.  The Jets could be the uber trap/Steve Wilks revenge buzzsaw that sucks all the life and wind out of us.  Or we could beat them and the narrative still wouldn't change because they are a really bad team.

Here's my long perspective:  We've been one of the worst teams since we traded for Bryce - talent level, wins, etc.  Any metric will show that.  This year, we are improving.  Maybe we're not bottom tier trash.  Maybe we're just to below average.  That's growth as far as I'm concerned.  I'll take that.