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Interesting story. The NFL draft is a LOT about relationships between the FOs. If true, any chance to screw over the Pats is fine by me

It's unrealistic to expect Bryce to be 200% better Week 1. New staff, new system, new players. We are still a talent deficient team until we show otherwise. We are just as thin defensively as we were last year, and we're down our most consistent pass rusher (Burns). So what do I expect from Bryce? Improvement. There's not numbers that will show that because "stats can be manipulated/lie." Instead, I'd like to see Bryce making more plays. Let's start with running the offense, and then build into the playmaking. So far, D&D are winless and undefeated. I don't expect a 180 degree turn around, but I do expect a better offensive game plan. I expect Bryce to play his best football in November and December, either helping the Panthers make a run or play spoiler.

Well, if we'd sat Bryce then we'd have gone 17~0 on the way to Superb Owl win! Of course right? Honestly, it's one of those Schrodinger's Cat situations. There are an infinite number of possibilities that it could have been between: Worse and Better. Dalton would have looked better. We'd have won more games. Reich would probably be going into year two with Scott Fitterer at GM. Would we be a be a better team? We would have zero idea if Bryce was the dude, kind of where we are now. Except Bryce would not have had as much adversity. With QBs in the NFL, you don't have much time to evaluate. You used to be able to sit guys for a year or two, but now a days, you are up and playing week 1. I think we'd be in worse shape honestly. I like how things are going right now under D&D. I am not sure Fitterer would have done any better in FA or the Draft or if Reich would have shown his coaching acumen any better in 2024. So instead of changing the past, we have to keep looking forward. Learn the lessons from the past, but keep moving forward.

They saw something they liked with Austin Corbett. I'm not sure if that's the answer, but we'll see. I was hoping they would grab a center, especially the kid out of WVA. He seemed like a real dawg. So long as the Panthers are better than last year, I'll be satisfied. I mean, we had the shortest time in the lead in the league and won two games. Let's see that improvement!

We live in a society where we expect results immediately. Like in Idiocracy, when they finally start watering the crops it takes time for them to grow. Snap judgments aren't productive, but they sure do get the clicks. From the good "I love the confirmation that my team did awesome!" Or the outrage "I can't believe they graded us too poorly!" As I said in another post, for D&D, this is their job on the line. I don't think any team intentionally tries to fug up their draft. We'll have to wait and see. Considering how poor our drafts have been lately, despite getting some good press, let's see what they cooked up. The Panthers were much more concerned with developing the culture first. Get their vision of what a Carolina Panther is instead of the cute and sexy draft value picks. We'll see if it works.

That's a fun little tidbit. Fun. I like that he gets the Steve Smith approval, whatever that means. At the end of the day, it's all about winning. Can he help the Panthers win? Can he help our offense improve? If so, YES! If not, best wishes! Pulling for him because he's our annual UDFA WR we're all hot and bothered over And if I need to go balastic defending him to haters...well I won't! =P

I do miss the days of the constant Ryan Kalil. What a joy that way. Would it be nice to draft a 10 year center? A point of contention for drafting an early center is that the average draft position was between 2 and 5. I don't recall where I saw or heard it, but it seemed to come up a lot. So take that with a mountain of salt. That being said, as fans we do not have all the information. Dan and Dave have all the information. They did the interviews, have looked at all the tape, and have talked to their guys. So they have a TON more information than we do. Also, it's not our job. We are passionate about our team, but we're fans. These guys have to make decisions that will affect their lives, their family's lives, and their reputations. A fan messed up a mock draft, so what? When a GM bungles a draft, that could be it for them. So they are going to be doing the best they can at building a team because that leads them to more success, money and security. I'll say this: let's be patient. I know it's hard after years of sucking. Watching other teams find success in a quick turnaround has been frustrating. Having "your draft" crushes do well while our picks struggle sucks. Then again, if drafting was easy then why didn't Mike Mayock last as a GM since he was a TV expert? The reality is that when good prospects go to good teams, they look good. When good prospects go to dumpster fires, then they look like poo. There are VERY few players who can truly change the outlook of a team, like Cam did. Most need help and support from strong organizations with good coaching. Let's see what happens. We have to be patient.

Bryce needs to show improvement. For that to happen, he needs his OL to play better, the running game to be productive, his WRs and TEs to catch the ball, and a coaching staff that has a plan and vision. If Bryce doesn't show the ability to play in the NFL then we'll be picking high again and can try to QB lottery again. The pressure is on him to produce.

I know! He'll make a mistake in practice and then he's an all-time bust, by Huddle Logic.

He's going to be fun for interviews with his accent, love it! Will he be a good play? Who knows. It's up to Morgan and Canales to maximize his talent. I understand picking up the 5th year option, especially looking at the WR contracts hitting $30 million a year. As fans, we can never know what a team is thinking. We can only look at it like a fan. Morgan said XL has the dawg in him. We'll see if that's the right choice. There's a lot more to the NFL draft than YouTube cut-up highlights. The medicals, interviews, and coaching backgrounds go a long way to figuring this out. Couple of things. This is the Jordan Palmer flag football game where NFL players (including Bryce Young and DJ Metcalf) play for charity. Who was Bryce throwing it to? DK. Interesting.... Is this my crazy brain connecting the dots? No. I just think it's interesting to see. Just interesting that Steve Smith Sr. said that XL reminded him of DK in a few ways... Though it was hilarious seeing this giant human being play flag football with weekend warriors. Will XL be a hit? I don't know. But it's going to be entertaining one way or another. It's not my job to make the picks, thankfully. The criticism is very valid after years of poor drafting. We need to see the improvement on the field.

I hope things go well for the Panthers, and I hope that YOU keep getting better! Best wishes!

The more I hear from Canales, the more I think we made the right hire, finally. Could just be hopium, but man, he seems like he's the real deal. Hopefully Tepper and the fanbase will be patient enough to let him grow into the role. Allow him to learn from his mistakes.

I'll take a stab here... I don't know. For many years, there has been a reliance on the mental aspect of the game. That's why physically limited guys like Brady and Brees were able to be elite-level QBs. Despite a lack of incredible physical talent, they made up for it with their brains. Nowadays, you have teams that are betting on the traits. Patrick Mahomes and John Allen, two of the better QBs around, have a plethora of physical traits. Dad bods and all. They were drafted based on how the team thought they could build around them. The Chiefs were already a playoff team, but Andy Reid needed his ideal QB, which is Mahomes. The Bills bet that Allen could be a Cam Newton type if they took better care of him. You can debate on the tools of Williams versus the brains of Bryce, but at the end of the day, I don't think either matter. What matters is what team the guys go to. Does that team have a plan for their QB? Do they actually execute the plan? Are they patient enough with the QB to let them have their lumps and learn? Or do they toss the baby out with the bath water? We'll see. This should be an interesting football season!

I saw that Arrowhead is thinking of trying to get an xbox port... I think that's great personally. Sure, I'd love to play it, but I don't have time right now. This summer, I'll definitely dive in on PC.

Well, Todd Howard has executive producer credits, so there's that

Honestly, this screams draft gamesmanship. I think the Panthers do like Legette. He's very interesting. By broadcasting that they want a guy, their hope is that will allow them to get more for pick 33. That's what I think. Wouldn't surprise me if they don't draft him either.

Man alive! I do love draft season! The smoke screens are all out there from players, agents and teams! Though not much information. I wouldn't stress about it. There's a LOT going on between now and Friday... A lot can change.

Man, I am surprised it doesn't have its own thread. Just a great damn show. The cast is wonderful. Money was well spent. Waldon Goggins is amazing. It had a lot of great pieces from the games and toed the line of being definitively a fallout show but still telling an engaging story. Some of the characters didn't hit for me, but at the end of the day, I couldn't wait to see each episode. Though I wish it was a weekly thing. I don't want it to fade from the social conscience. Season 2 is already green lit! So I'm pretty excited! Made be redownload fallout 4 and jump back into the wastelands! Anyone else?

Looks like a stock trader who wants to know what the fundamentals are and how it's going to grow or how he can capitalize on its weaknesses. It doesn't work that way in the NFL. Tepper needs to understand that the NFL isn't a traditional business. His acumen and background mean NOTHING to winning in the NFL. Instead, he needs to hire smart people with a plan and let them do their thing with minimal input and interference. If Tepper wants to be the biggest fan and nerd, getting to go around with the team, attending dinners, whatever. It's his money. He wants to talk to draft picks and welcome them? Cool! That's a nice gesture for a young man on the biggest night of his life. But when making decisions, he needs to just back away. No, run away. Tepper should concentrate on the business and fan side of things. Make coming to games an incredible experience for the fans. Let the football people do the football things.

I'm thrilled for the Canes and the Raleigh area. I'm glad they managed to put together a competent team and situation. I think the biggest problem in the NFL is the money. With the pure amount of money, plus the general ego of the rich in general; you end up with some real special people in charge of teams. Sometimes you have a cheap billionaire, like the Hunts not wanting to give their players a new locker room. Or you have a Tepper who will burn money because he's so rich. I think the most important aspect of owning a team is finding people you trust and giving control to them. Give them the reign to make decisions, learn, and improve. That's hard when teams go from the basement to the penthouse in a season (and back down) in sports. Admitting when you are wrong or don't know something takes a lot of humility. That's a difficult task for a billionaire who profited off the hard labor of others without doing much real work on their own. It's even worse when you have a "self-made" billionaire like Tepper. They think because they came up from nothing, they can be better than everyone else. It's exhausting!

Ahh, huddle, you never change! What will shut us all up is winning. That's just the reality of sports. I hope that the Panthers are better this year than last year. I hope that this is the coach and staff that helps the Panthers turn the corner from dumpster fire to an interesting and entertaining team. We are the joke until we prove we're not. I hope someone puts that on a board somewhere in the Panthers' offseason meeting rooms.

The good news is that the Panthers have plenty of holes and a dearth of talent! I don't think you can point to a spot and say "we're set there" outside of guard maybe. I'd love to get several of these dawgs on the team to help transform the culture. It may not lead to a 10 in season this year, but is we're able to reset the roster and attitude... It won't hurt my feelings.

News Flash, just get DK Metcalf! This just popped up in my YouTube feed, and I was like WTF? Bryce's team won the flag football tournament so there's that. I'm sure many of y'all are going to make the statement "a good place for him" etc. But what sticks out to me in the very few parts with Young is if he can find a guy to make a play, he'll find them. No, this was not NFL football, it was a charity flag football game. Bryce needs guys who will make plays. Like most NFL QBs.

While I appreciate the relationship with Bryce that Chark developed, I just didn't see enough production. The backbreaking drops were the worst thing. If he would come back on a 1 year min, great, but if I'm DJ, I go somewhere to try to prove I deserve a decent payday. I'm not sure returning to the scene of the crime that was the 2023 offense is a good idea.

No way, after seeing Canales hug his players, we're going to win the Superb Owl!!! Jokes aside, I like him doing that to start to build rapport with the team. We were abysmal last year. Our D was the bright spot, but even it had some real issues outside of being on the field for most of the game. We traded away our best edge, lost our best LB, and cut a starting safety. Yikes. Our offense, the big brown streak in the underwear of fandom, was just the worst. Couldn't get out of their way. When the rare big play happened, something happened immediately after or during to ruin it. We were worse at scoring than the D&D Club in an 80s RomCom. I like how we're getting big men in the middle. I like how Canales seems to have a vision. I like that they are trying to get Evero some players. If we somehow manage to double or triple our win total from last year, it's going to be a good year. Even with that, we need to see Bryce Young develop and show why he was the consensus #1 NFL Draft Pick. Let's see development. Let's see smart plays and game plans. Since this is the NFL, I would not be surprised if our games in November and December have some meaning for us.