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ESPN guys talk Bryce fifth year option


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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think they are hoping. Mainly because they have put themselves in a position to where they are kinda stuck. They've waited a year or 2 too late to hedge their bet. Now they are left with hoping the massive investment the made eventually nets them a decent qb. I am still amazed that these professionals haven't seen the need for a plan B in the qb room.

I think picking up the 5th is a mistake.  Here is why.  What if its just more of the same next year?  Then you have a 26 million albatross around your neck and no real way to get out from under it.  If you dont pick it up and let him play year 4 and he "balls out" (I mean come on who thinks that is going to happen) then you simply tag him and move on down the road and try to ext him.  You have options.  Picking up the 5th is tethering him to your team one way or another for 2 more years.  

 

I cannot think of anyone outside of lunatics like mac and bone who would be upset to simply let him play out the 4rth year a la Jones and go from there.  They were even pushing back against bringing in competition for him next year.  Said the team likes dalton.  They want to see how the last 4 games go.  I mean fug didnt we just do this last year?  Why would the last 4 change anyones opinion of him?

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6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think picking up the 5th is a mistake.  Here is why.  What if its just more of the same next year?  Then you have a 26 million albatross around your neck and no real way to get out from under it.  If you dont pick it up and let him play year 4 and he "balls out" (I mean come on who thinks that is going to happen) then you simply tag him and move on down the road and try to ext him.  You have options.  Picking up the 5th is tethering him to your team one way or another for 2 more years.  

 

I cannot think of anyone outside of lunatics like mac and bone who would be upset to simply let him play out the 4rth year a la Jones and go from there.  They were even pushing back against bringing in competition for him next year.  Said the team likes dalton.  They want to see how the last 4 games go.  I mean fug didnt we just do this last year?  Why would the last 4 change anyones opinion of him?

Its the lesser of 2 evils. They are forced in keeping him another season because they will have to redo the qb room since they decided to keep the status quo there and its blown up in their faces. Even if they do exercise the 5th they still can trade or cut him if they must. They've eaten contacts before and they will again.  Its the natue of the business. Swallowing 26 million is easier than trying to ride out 5 years @ 60 million per year.

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Just now, Jon Snow said:

Its the lesser of 2 evils. They are forced in keeping another season because they will have to redo the qb room since they decided to keep the status quo there and its blown up in their faces. Even if they do exercise the 5th they still can trade or cut him if they must. They've eaten contacts before and they will again.  Its not natue of the business. Swallowing 26 million is easier than trying to ride out 5 years @ 60 million per year.

Yeah the term "team friendly deal" was thrown out a lot today and to me thats the same thing.  If he is not the guy getting him cheaper does do poo.  If he is not the guy he is not the guy.  its been 3 years and its quite literally the same result not sure what magical corner he is going to turn in year 4.  We have heard it every offseason.

Having to eat that dead cap in 27 potentially would kindof suck because hopefully the roster is rock solid and there may be a qb you can drop in and keep winning

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10 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Yeah the term "team friendly deal" was thrown out a lot today and to me thats the same thing.  If he is not the guy getting him cheaper does do poo.  If he is not the guy he is not the guy.  its been 3 years and its quite literally the same result not sure what magical corner he is going to turn in year 4.  We have heard it every offseason.

Having to eat that dead cap in 27 potentially would kindof suck because hopefully the roster is rock solid and there may be a qb you can drop in and keep winning

Team friendly / short term extension was Dan Graziano's suggestion, using the Packers and Jordan Love as an example.

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