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I’m just not impressed with these hires/openings

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14 minutes ago, hepcat said:

The Browns are scrambling to find a coach to interview to satisfy the Rooney rule and none of the candidates are better than Evero which is super sad for them and maybe good for us 

Makes me think. Some of these guys obviously know they are just being asked to interview to satisfy that requirement.  
 

People say going through the process, even under those circumstances, is beneficial as a learning experience and preparation for a legit opportunity. 
But after you have done a couple, you probably don’t want to do any more if you think it is just for the rule. So you turn them down. 

Results in the Browns’s dilemma. 
 

I think the rule should be amended to: teams have to request interviews, not necessarily have them. In the case of no one wanting to do one, you tried. 
 

A certain number of requests go out, but none get accepted, that should do it for them. You can place requirements on how many requests you need to send out, who the requests go to… no quality control assistants or that type of thing. Legit coaches at a level where it makes sense. 

Satisfy that and you are free to hire your coach.  
 

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50 minutes ago, strato said:

Makes me think. Some of these guys obviously know they are just being asked to interview to satisfy that requirement.  
 

People say going through the process, even under those circumstances, is beneficial as a learning experience and preparation for a legit opportunity. 
But after you have done a couple, you probably don’t want to do any more if you think it is just for the rule. So you turn them down. 

Results in the Browns’s dilemma. 
 

I think the rule should be amended to: teams have to request interviews, not necessarily have them. In the case of no one wanting to do one, you tried. 
 

A certain number of requests go out, but none get accepted, that should do it for them. You can place requirements on how many requests you need to send out, who the requests go to… no quality control assistants or that type of thing. Legit coaches at a level where it makes sense. 

Satisfy that and you are free to hire your coach.  
 

I don't think there is any real reason to amend the rule. If you do, the teams will just find a way to abuse it. All the Browns have to do is just interview SOMEONE to "get through" the process. Hell, interview Jim Caldwell if that's what the actual goal is, just to get around it. 

Also, they have all of the candidates required for the Rooney Rule in Aden Durde and Nate Scheelhaase. They are in full compliance already. Scheelhaase is already scheduled for a second interview, for that matter.

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Just saying. It made me think well, what if a team is trying in earnest and is held hostage by people not accepting their requests. You need to prevent that. 

Abuse of the rule has been happening since it was implemented, fwiw. They will interview someone they really have no interest in just to satisfy the rule. 

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23 minutes ago, strato said:

Just saying. It made me think well, what if a team is trying in earnest and is held hostage by people not accepting their requests. You need to prevent that. 

That's not a thing. If they can't find someone, they either aren't actually trying or it's a poisonous job and no one will. 

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Abuse of the rule has been happening since it was implemented, fwiw. They will interview someone they really have no interest in just to satisfy the rule. 

Yes, plenty of them have gone with whom they wanted already. That's not really the point of the rule. It's to force teams to provide opportunities. It has worked well because coaches that wouldn't normally be given interviews are given that experience and teams have also been impressed enough to either offer them in the future or pass positive comments along to other NFL owners/front office personnel. 

Also, we are over 20 years into the Rooney Rule. This isn't some new thing teams have to navigate. 

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That's not a thing. If they can't find someone, they either aren't actually trying or it's a poisonous job and no one will. 

Yes, plenty of them have gone with whom they wanted already. That's not really the point of the rule. It's to force teams to provide opportunities. It has worked well because coaches that wouldn't normally be given interviews are given that experience and teams have also been impressed enough to either offer them in the future or pass positive comments along to other NFL owners/front office personnel. 

Also, we are over 20 years into the Rooney Rule. This isn't some new thing teams have to navigate. 

What is new is a team having trouble getting people to accept interviews. No one foresaw that, I dare say.  
A wrinkle not considered when the rule was constructed. Not sure why anyone would resist addressing it. 

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54 minutes ago, strato said:

What is new is a team having trouble getting people to accept interviews. No one foresaw that, I dare say.  
A wrinkle not considered when the rule was constructed. Not sure why anyone would resist addressing it. 

There literally hasn't been a recorded instance of that. There likely never would be. Taking an interview doesn't mean you have to take the job. It's just experience.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

There literally hasn't been a recorded instance of that. There likely never would be. Taking an interview doesn't mean you have to take the job. It's just experience.

I didn’t read that Browns article but it was stated that they are having trouble fulfilling it. Knowing the hype being pushed for clicks today, maybe it is bullshit untrue bait. Fair enough. 

But that brings to mind, it is conceivable that a team could be in a position where they needed a remedy for an unforeseen catch 22 type of thing such as that.  

Simple and logical concept: a contingency should be in place for all scenarios. poo comes - that we don’t see coming - all the time in life. If the rule needs fine tuning, tune it and move forward. 




 


 

 

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31 minutes ago, strato said:

I didn’t read that Browns article but it was stated that they are having trouble fulfilling it. Knowing the hype being pushed for clicks today, maybe it is bullshit untrue bait. Fair enough. 

But that brings to mind, it is conceivable that a team could be in a position where they needed a remedy for an unforeseen catch 22 type of thing such as that.  

Simple and logical concept: a contingency should be in place for all scenarios. poo comes - that we don’t see coming - all the time in life. If the rule needs fine tuning, tune it and move forward. 




 


 

 

I'd think deion would interview but honestly he would probably refuse to interview and just demand the job

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57 minutes ago, strato said:

I didn’t read that Browns article but it was stated that they are having trouble fulfilling it. Knowing the hype being pushed for clicks today, maybe it is bullshit untrue bait. Fair enough. 

But that brings to mind, it is conceivable that a team could be in a position where they needed a remedy for an unforeseen catch 22 type of thing such as that.  

Simple and logical concept: a contingency should be in place for all scenarios. poo comes - that we don’t see coming - all the time in life. If the rule needs fine tuning, tune it and move forward. 




 


 

 

I mean, I did name the two guys that meet the requirements that they have done an initial and have second interviews scheduled with. That is from the NFL's own tracker.

And, no, you don't change rules for fantastical scenarios. 

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-coaching-gm-tracker-latest-news-interviews-developments-2026-hiring-cycle

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I mean, I did name the two guys that meet the requirements that they have done an initial and have second interviews scheduled with. That is from the NFL's own tracker.

And, no, you don't change rules for fantastical scenarios. 

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-coaching-gm-tracker-latest-news-interviews-developments-2026-hiring-cycle

Sending out legit requests really ought to suffice. 

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2 hours ago, strato said:

Sending out legit requests really ought to suffice. 

Like we sent out a legit request to Ryans. He turned us down. He was a top coaching candidate that turned us down. I think that meets the standard. Bringing someone else in who isn't up to that standard just to mark a checklist is a bit insulting I would think. 

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