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So we draft Newton...and he has a good rookie season...


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How was he supposed to improve when his situation that he was in didn't improve? Don't give up on him and draft a project player #1 overall when we could use the #1 to help in other areas to make the team all around better.

A young QB with any modicum of promise can improve his team over the course of a season, at least a little bit. He and the the team grew worse. Much worse.

1st) Give up on him. Immediately.

2nd) I don't want us to draft to draft a QB #1 unless it's a sure deal, and I don't think it is, so I agree, draft elsewhere.

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Fine, I'll give you the answer. No, Clausen was and is a disaster. Let's just forget it ever happened and move on.

And so was the situation he was in was it not? The answer to that question is yes. He very well may be a disaster it's very possible I don't blame you for thinking that. But he honestly did not recieve a fair chance. And it's possible that he does well this season but even if not we'd be in the same boat even if we drafted cam because every one wants to sit him for a few seasons. What good will that do? Get an impact player this season with the #1 overall pick any position that you'd like. If clausen does indeed fail our record probably won't be that much better than this year and we can get one next year. By what every one is saying by sitting Cam it really won't make a difference and would be better if we just passed on him. Because after what I saw yesterday from his performance theres a chance that even with him sitting he'll still be a bust.

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A young QB with any modicum of promise can improve his team over the course of a season, at least a little bit. He and the the team grew worse. Much worse.

1st) Give up on him. Immediately.

2nd) I don't want us to draft to draft a QB #1 unless it's a sure deal, and I don't think it is, so I agree, draft elsewhere.

Ok well as long as we are clear on the second part i'll stop posting the same thing lol. But as for #1 I could see that being possible but again this was different because how much work did the other coach's give him? Why do you think Rivera decided to not keep Rip as the qb's coach? Fox was in a lame duck situation and our OC was by FAR the most predicatable in the league it just seems like he deserves a fair shot.

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Again, I'm not suggesting we draft Cam. Maybe we should, and if we did, we'd win win quite a few more cames than we did with Clausen.

What I am suggesting is Clausen is not an NFL QB, never will be, and the sooner we realize this, the better.

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Ok well as long as we are clear on the second part i'll stop posting the same thing lol. But as for #1 I could see that being possible but again this was different because how much work did the other coach's give him? Why do you think Rivera decided to not keep Rip as the qb's coach? Fox was in a lame duck situation and our OC was by FAR the most predicatable in the league it just seems like he deserves a fair shot.

You said it best, he's by far the most predictable OC in the league. That's why.

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You said it best, he's by far the most predictable OC in the league. That's why.

I'm not crazy about Clausen either but I just don't see the upside of bringing in cam if we plan on sitting him especially since there could be a tiny chance that clausen could turn it around not saying he will not saying im expecting him too but i'd like to find out.

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Again, I'm not suggesting we draft Cam. Maybe we should, and if we did, we'd win win quite a few more cames than we did with Clausen.

What I am suggesting is Clausen is not an NFL QB, never will be, and the sooner we realize this, the better.

you have the football understanding of a 10 yo girl.....that is all.

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Cam did fine yesterday. About what I expected.

He probably wouldn't have a great rookie year. Might need to hold a clipboard through most of it.

But one of his best attributes are his legs and if he were thrown in there to early he would do okay bc he would have the ability to make plays with his feet when he feels uncomfortable throwing the ball.

Other QB's do not have that luxury. If they struggle with throwing or with dealing with the pressure of the defense they end up looking like Clausen.

It would be best for Cam to sit for the first season, or do like The Golden Calf of Bristol did and if the team is out of the playoffs get some starts in at the end of the season.

I don't worry about Cam throwing the ball. He is going to be fine. But it might take a little time. But he has the feet to be effective until until he gets the kinks worked out.

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Cam did fine yesterday. About what I expected.

He probably wouldn't have a great rookie year. Might need to hold a clipboard through most of it.

But one of his best attributes are his legs and if he were thrown in there to early he would do okay bc he would have the ability to make plays with his feet when he feels uncomfortable throwing the ball.

Other QB's do not have that luxury. If they struggle with throwing or with dealing with the pressure of the defense they end up looking like Clausen.

It would be best for Cam to sit for the first season, or do like The Golden Calf of Bristol did and if the team is out of the playoffs get some starts in at the end of the season.

I don't worry about Cam throwing the ball. He is going to be fine. But it might take a little time. But he has the feet to be effective until until he gets the kinks worked out.

Cam had a 50% completion rate...with no defense on the field. He was playing pitch and catch.

If that was the performance that you expected, you need to raise your expectations.

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But one of his best attributes are his legs and if he were thrown in there to early he would do okay bc he would have the ability to make plays with his feet when he feels uncomfortable throwing the ball.

Other QB's do not have that luxury. If they struggle with throwing or with dealing with the pressure of the defense they end up looking like Clausen.

Why not Locker? Locker is slightly faster and almost as big.

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Locker has just as many question marks on the field as Cam give me the winner that has negatives that can be worked on. He says he is willing to put in the work to become a great QB and I think he will do so.

As far as the thread at hand I'm on the side that thinks we need a vet QB like McNabb to mentor Cam like he did Vick last year.

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