Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Sources: NFLPA orders draft boycott


jtnc

Recommended Posts

Ok, The Draft and that entire spectacle is an NFL product. The players are officially locked out by the NFL. Why would they be there? The gloves came off as negotiations were over. If I was the Union I would also ask the players not to show up. If I was a player I would probably not want to alienate my peers on my first day. If I the "NFL" network or whomever the network that is broadcasting the draft I would be pissed. I just look at this like another incentive on getting done quicker. I mean it's not like the players aren't still going to be drafted.

That is great from a leverage stand point and is great for the players in the league.

What PISSES me off is their willingness to take the greatest day in these kid's lives, and try to take it away FROM THE KIDS to try to get leverage.

These kids have waited THEIR WHOLE LIVES FOR THIS MOMENT.

Just shows that the NFLPA doesn't care about things like that. They just want leverage to make the NFL = MLB.

You can't defend taking the young college kid's day away from them like that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For the record I think both sides are full of poo. I just think the owners tried to strong arm the players in the beginning and it lead to an impass. They could have easily given concessions weeks ago, but according to most reports, they were not even close to where the last proposal was. Going 18 games, rookie caps, 2 billion off the top, and negotiating that back door TV deal was too much to start with.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

funny

6 months from now the majority of the players will be broke and thousands+ in debt, while the owners will be chuckling in their mansions at a bunch of dumbass athletes trying to strong arm them into a new deal

they will then accept a worse deal than originally offered

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is great from a leverage stand point and is great for the players in the league.

What PISSES me off is their willingness to take the greatest day in these kid's lives, and try to take it away FROM THE KIDS to try to get leverage.

These kids have waited THEIR WHOLE LIVES FOR THIS MOMENT.

Just shows that the NFLPA doesn't care about things like that. They just want leverage to make the NFL = MLB.

You can't defend taking the young college kid's day away from them like that.

I don't think this gives the NFLPA or the players any additional leverage. The fact that the players are not present changes NOTHING with the workings of the draft.

It just makes the existing players look like spoiled little bitches.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Players Association has no power over the incoming players. They aren't a union, so they don't legally represent the players. Also since they aren't a union, the players are required to be a member of this trade association. If I was a top prospect, and my dream of hearing my name called and walking across the stage was coming up, I would be damned if I'm letting some two bit trade association, one that I don't currently belong to, tell me I can't go to New York and walk the stage.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't think this gives the NFLPA or the players any additional leverage. The fact that the players are not present changes NOTHING with the workings of the draft.

It just makes the existing players look like spoiled little bitches.

actually it destroys ratings for the NFL network/ESPN/etc since no one is going to sit around and watch it when no players will be going up to get their jersey and do interviews. people would just follow it via live updater/blogs on several websites.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Players Association has no power over the incoming players. They aren't a union, so they don't legally represent the players. Also since they aren't a union, the players are required to be a member of this trade association. If I was a top prospect, and my dream of hearing my name called and walking across the stage was coming up, I would be damned if I'm letting some two bit trade association, one that I don't currently belong to, tell me I can't go to New York and walk the stage.

Not quite as simple as that for the rookies. This really makes a tough decison for them. Do they live out their life long dream of walking the stage. Or, do they risk alienating and pissign off the veterans that they will some day be playing with.

This is a bush league move by the players and the NFLPA.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

actually it destroys ratings for the NFL network/ESPN/etc since no one is going to sit around and watch it when no players will be going up to get their jersey and do interviews. people would just follow it via live updater/blogs on several websites.

See your point....but not sure how much it will really matter.

I am just as inclined to watch without the players as I am with them.

I don't care about the interviews. I am more interested in teh picks and the analysts comments and discussions on the picks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Reporter: A black car traveling south on I95 blew a Goodyear tire and flipped 12 times before lauching landing in a canal.

After 3 people passed on the report: An orange cat flipped off a canine.

How can this report really have already been completely screwed up by you guys after 30 minutes?

It's real simple, the players want to collect the revenues of a public appearance to accept their draft position as selected. Why shouldn't they profit? They are the commodity.....this is just another example of that. I think it's hilarious.

The NFL Players Association is putting into place a plan that would prevent each top college prospect from attending next month's draft in New York, according to multiple league sources. The NFLPA already has contacted 17 top prospects that ordinarily would have received an invitation to attend the draft and informed them not to go.

Thus, when NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announces the name of the first player selected, the player will not walk on to the stage at Radio City Music Hall as has been the custom. And the player will not be there to do interviews with ESPN or NFL Network. The draft will go on, but not in the manner in which it has been conducted before.

"As of right now, this is 100 percent happening," said one source familiar with the Players Association's thinking. "This is going down."

The Players Association even has gone so far as to consider placing the players on another competing network to do post-pick interviews, though no final decisions have been made. Another source said that, in this day and age, it's possible that the top prospects also could appear on a social media network platform, only.

"We plan to invite the 15-20 top prospects and their families to New York as we normally do for this once-in-a-lifetime experience. And, as always, it is the decision of the players and their families as to whether they attend," league spokesman Greg Aiello said in response to the report.

Yet another source suggested the NFL still could try to pay the incoming rookies to attend the draft, but it is something the league never has done in the past. The NFL has always paid the expenses for the invited players and their immediate family to attend.

Last Friday, the union decertified, meaning it declared itself out of the business of representing players. In exchange for giving up their rights under labor law, the players are able to take their chances in court under antitrust law.

Although it no longer represents players, the NFLPA still exists "as a professional trade association with the mission of supporting the interests and rights of current and former professional football players," it said after decertifying.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • In another post, Snow says about three years before you can properly grade a rookie class.  Sounds about right…
    • And this reiterates why I don’t want a Young contract extension. Please let us find another QB. 
    • Oh, the high expectations after a draft. Keep your expectations low, people. Darin Gantt's latest "Ask The Old Guy" gives life to one of those lessons about pro football reality as a fan: "Rasheed Walker was a three-year starter at left tackle for the Packers, so Freeling is going to have to work. Hunter's got another big 'un in front of him in Bobby Brown III and a different kind of defensive tackle in Tershawn Wharton. Chris Brazzell II's got a lot of traffic at his position. Zakee Wheatley has to be better than the chronically underappreciated Nick Scott, and Sam Hecht is a fifth-round rookie at the hardest position on the line to play, who probably doesn't have immediate positional flexibility, and a solid free agent addition in Luke Fortner in front of him. "Fans generally love their draft class as soon as it arrives, because there is no evidence to the contrary yet. Once guys get on the field, the reality begins to creep in, and the seasoned among you remember that if you get three or four good players out of a draft, that was an amazing draft." https://www.panthers.com/news/ask-the-old-guy-things-looking-up-after-the-draft-monroe-freeling-luke-kuechly-bryce-young-derrick-brown Don't get crazy. Winning the draft (or the offseason BTW) on paper always leads to good feelings and great expectations, especially when you seemingly succeeded the season before, but let's remember that the Panthers are very much a work in progress. Team building takes time. If we get a couple of starters out of the draft, it's a good draft, but three or four would be an amazing draft, and anything more than that is actually sensational--even if entails a few multiple high end rotational players along with three starters. Moreover, kind of within that same vein, the coaches have to let the kids off the chain. Remember the coach-speak of past coaches about competition that is anything but because coaches have their notions about veteran experience? Not saying that they're necessarily wrong, but sometimes I think their reluctance to put the young guys out there is based somewhat in dogma or possibly fear because big stakes are on the line (e.g., their jobs). It can be frustrating to say the least, but the coaches are supposed to know best. Again, I say all of this so that we can remember to temper expectations and keep them within the realm of reality. It's like telling your mind to think of it as something akin to under-promising and over-delivering. Leave room to be pleasantly surprised for the best case scenario, but be cognizant that that rarely happens. I would think at this point, most of us should be able to recognize growth when we see it, and sometimes that growth doesn't manifest itself in the form of immediate supremacy, but a setting of the stage for long term dominance for years to come. It seems like we're on track for an emergence by 2028 or 2029. We still have huge questions, but by 2029, hopefully we will take our seat at the table of the perennial contenders in the NFL.  
×
×
  • Create New...