If you knew Newton would hit his upside

[micnificent28]

This is kind of what I'm wondering. Do you guys in general feel like Newton's upside is higher than Luck's?

Let's look at the two assuming they both max out there potential that's a big if I know but bare with me. Newton is 6'6 250-260 range freakish size that is rare in the NFL. I bet you couldn't name 3 guys in the league right now as big at qb. That alone make his vison and release point high enuff we won't see slot of knocked down passes. Luck has great size so I won't worry about it either.

Arm strength- with newton they say his passes knife through 15-20 mph winds easy. I think day 1 he has a top 8 arm in the NFL. Lucks arm strength all I've ever seen is it's good enuff to make all the throws. It's good, never heard cannon used to describe his throwing power.

Accuracy- luck far surpasses newton but if they both max out there potential, newton can he accurate if he fixes his weight distribution when throwing so tie.

Mobility- luck is a good athlete but let's face it at his best he wouldn't be as good on the move as newton is right now. While does have good speed and good power(we've all seen the highlight) he can't hold a candle to newton. A man with newtons freakish size isn't suppose to be able to move and avoid the rush the way newton does. Only the vickish one will be more dangerous on the move.

Basically they both have great potential but newtons is just superior due to his Raw physical talent. If they both peak on the field in passing abilities newton still is bigger faster stronger. That being said which would you rather have on 3rd down.

[csx]

But if both maximized their potential I woulf prob go Cam becaue of his running ability. But like someone else said it would be like picking batman or superman

....but Luck had a significantly higher yards per rush attempt ;)

This is silly, since if Luck had come out he'd be the pick and there wouldn't be any debate about it at all. When he decided to stay in school, it was like there was a brief pause while everyone bitched about him and then looked around to see if they could justify Cam Newton.

[Cyberjag]

I think it's more like Bird vs. Johnson than Superman vs. Batman. Both would be great players, one will re-define the position he plays. So assuming Luck becomes another Peyton Manning, I would probably still take Newton. To me, he would be like combining the best on-field aspects of Mike Vick and Big Ben. I don't think the league has ever seen anything like that. And to me, that's almost too compelling to pass on.

Granted, I think there's a much higher chance that Luck becomes a great NFL QB. But if I absolutely knew Newton would too, I think I would take him. I wonder which one Hurney would go for.

[Millions]

I think it's more like Bird vs. Johnson than Superman vs. Batman. Both would be great players, one will re-define the position he plays. So assuming Luck becomes another Peyton Manning, I would probably still take Newton. To me, he would be like combining the best on-field aspects of Mike Vick and Big Ben. I don't think the league has ever seen anything like that. And to me, that's almost too compelling to pass on.

Granted, I think there's a much higher chance that Luck becomes a great NFL QB. But if I absolutely knew Newton would too, I think I would take him. I wonder which one Hurney would go for.

Exactly why I think he actually has a chance to "redefine the position" we hear that so much but Newton has a legit chance if he puts in the work to reach his ceiling.

[micnificent28]

....but Luck had a significantly higher yards per rush attempt ;)

This is silly, since if Luck had come out he'd be the pick and there wouldn't be any debate about it at all. When he decided to stay in school, it was like there was a brief pause while everyone bitched about him and then looked around to see if they could justify Cam Newton.

1 are you seriously debating luck is a better runner than cam even at his best no.

2. His argument was about if both weregoing to reach there full potential not who is where now and luck came out.

[csx]

1 are you seriously debating luck is a better runner than cam even at his best no.

2. His argument was about if both weregoing to reach there full potential not who is where now and luck came out.

It was a bit of a sarcastic statement, but Luck is as much of a running QB as I'd personally ever want. He's a better QB, that's what I'm debating.

So, if both became insanely good pro's than I wouldn't care which one the panthers had.

[Kurb]

In all honestly Newty reaching his ceiling would equate to him playing in the NFL like he did in the SEC.

Yeah I would take that all day long.

He was basically unstoppable in the SEC.

[micnificent28]

It was a bit of a sarcastic statement, but Luck is as much of a running QB as I'd personally ever want. He's a better QB, that's what I'm debating.

So, if both became insanely good pro's than I wouldn't care which one the panthers had.

That's just it. He'd be as good a runner as you'd ever want. But at maximum ability as many state newt would be beyond that.your comefortable with him living up to be as good a runner as you would want. But, he could go so much further beyond that. He would redefine the quarterback position.

Your debating debating luck is better now sure but that isn't what the on is asking.

[Lumps]

28 please don't turn this thread into a pro-Cam campaign agenda. It's clear your answers are extremely bias, we get it already it's that obvious. You don't have to respond to people who think Luck would be better.

Highly subjective question to each individual. They are two totally different players, but I would still take Luck. I would rather have the full potential of his intelligence and have a smart passer like Brees, Brady, Manning and Rivers who pirck apart defenses rather than having Cam's full athletic ability and have a QB who can run. Success or not running won't last forever. I think Lucks intelligence and ability to read defenses rather than leaning on running himself would be the most successful, more NFL-usable potential I guess you could say.

If Luck came out this year, we'd pick him over Newton right? I think if you made the decision to pick either one you'd think you could get him to his full potential wouldn't you?

[teeray]

It was a bit of a sarcastic statement, but Luck is as much of a running QB as I'd personally ever want. He's a better QB, that's what I'm debating.

So, if both became insanely good pro's than I wouldn't care which one the panthers had.

I admit Luck was my #1 QB over Newton. But I was also pretty high on Cam even before Luck declared going back to school.

Luck also averaged more yards per carry than Mark Ingram but it doesn't mean he is a better runner.

But people do underestimate Luck's running ability. I just think Cam is better at it.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Not if Luck reaches his upside as well..

Luck has the tools to be the next Marino, Manning..

I take that over anything Newton could be all day.

[teeray]

No shame in taking either guy in this scenario.

Let me ask this question. What if both reaches their full potential yet neither is on our roster??

[Lumps]

No shame in taking either guy in this scenario.

Let me ask this question. What if both reaches their full potential yet neither is on our roster??

That would suck hard but...

If we take Cam this year, and there is not football we can have them BOTH on the roster...

[Millions]

No shame in taking either guy in this scenario.

Let me ask this question. What if both reaches their full potential yet neither is on our roster??

Don't even wanna think about it :(