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If the OLine is so bad...

Urrymonster

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Remember when we had all those sacks in spring training last year? it wasn't because our dline was awesome. OLines typically struggle at the beginning of the year. We have talented guys, and they'll get it together. It's not helping that we have a rookie QB in there that doesn't know how to adjust them, or read a defense and let them know what he sees. The bad line play is more a result of miscomunication than having bad players. They'll get it together by week 3 or 4.

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Freeman was sacked just 19 times in the first year, whereas in one more game Clausen was sacked an additional 13 times (313 to 344 dropbacks respectively). Our OLine is basically exactly the same as it was last year, so it's likely things won't change significantly.

If Clausen had the mobility of Freeman I'm sure those sack numbers would have been less.

With Cam's mobility atleast he has the chance to buy time and or escape the pocket to pick up positive yards with Clausen all we would be getting is a sack or hurried checkdown.

Anybody who has played any organized sports knows that the best practice is real experience, you can practice that left hook and jab all night and day long, it isn't until you're in the ring with a guy who is trying to knock your block off, that you realize what works for you and what doesn't.

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Remember when we had all those sacks in spring training last year? it wasn't because our dline was awesome. OLines typically struggle at the beginning of the year. We have talented guys, and they'll get it together. It's not helping that we have a rookie QB in there that doesn't know how to adjust them, or read a defense and let them know what he sees. The bad line play is more a result of miscomunication than having bad players. They'll get it together by week 3 or 4.

yeah, the Bengal OL looked SO behind.

also, Cam has displayed great pocket awareness in terms of feeling pressure overall during the preseason.

and our highest paid C in the NFL is calling the protections........maybe he doesn't deserve more than the guy in NY.

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This is what fans don't understand about running an offense. I don't care how bad your O-line is, if you got a guy that can change up the snap count and call out protection schemes on the fly, your O-line will be decent enough to win. Peyton Manning doesn't have a great O-line, but the guy know how to work it regardless of who is blocking for him. Tom Brady can maneuver a pocket better than a puppeteer handles his puppets.

Yet if all your QB does is go up to the center and say "Down, set, hut!", you might as well give a green light for opposing defenses to light you up. Cam might as well say "Ready, set, go"! It's as if the opposing defense is in the huddle when the play is called. If yall don't believe me, go look at Cam's play. Look at the obvious show of blitz by the Bengals, that Cam failed to notice. (It was that play where the safety sacked him.

Gross, Wharton, and Kalil looked scared for their lives last night. We are talking about established guys! Forget Bernadea, forget Williams, our established guys looked like JV players going against a putrid Bengals defense. That's not just bad O-line play, that is bad QB playcalling. Put in the vet or we will be drafting Luck next year.

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This is what fans don't understand about running an offense. I don't care how bad your O-line is, if you got a guy that can change up the snap count and call out protection schemes on the fly, your O-line will be decent enough to win. Peyton Manning doesn't have a great O-line, but the guy know how to work it regardless of who is blocking for him. Tom Brady can maneuver a pocket better than a puppeteer handles his puppets.

Yet if all your QB does is go up to the center and say "Down, set, hut!", you might as well give a green light for opposing defenses to light you up. Cam might as well say "Ready, set, go"! It's as if the opposing defense is in the huddle when the play is called. If yall don't believe me, go look at Cam's play. Look at the obvious show of blitz by the Bengals, that Cam failed to notice. (It was that play where the safety sacked him.

Gross, Wharton, and Kalil looked scared for their lives last night. We are talking about established guys! Forget Bernadea, forget Williams, our established guys looked like JV players going against a putrid Bengals defense. That's not just bad O-line play, that is bad QB playcalling. Put in the vet or we will be drafting Luck next year.

Sorry but Rookie QBs rarely if at all come out calling protections. There are a bunch of teams that adjust for this though. The Steelers did it with Big Ben, The Jets did it with Mark Sanchez, and the Ravens did it with Joe Flacco. Its not uncommon for QBs to go threw the 2nd whole season not calling protections because its still new to them and Defenses are so complex. That does not mean though they will never learn it, it just means the NFL is not a cake league.

Its the same reason John Fox did not like to develop QBs because they take time to progress and Vets already are what they are.

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Sorry but Rookie QBs rarely if at all come out calling protections. There are a bunch of teams that adjust for this though. The Steelers did it with Big Ben, The Jets did it with Mark Sanchez, and the Ravens did it with Joe Flacco. Its not uncommon for QBs to go threw the 2nd whole season not calling protections because its still new to them and Defenses are so complex. That does not mean though they will never learn it, it just means the NFL is not a cake league.

Its the same reason John Fox did not like to develop QBs because they take time to progress and Vets already are what they are.

So you think they just send the Qb out there and say 'no matter what they show, don't change anything'.

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