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Official Panthers vs Colts Gameday thread

Kevin Greene

By Kevin Greene,
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wow people really bitching about the kicker tackling Pilares? Really? Really? I mean c'mon, really?

Not really bitching it's kind of funny.

To you since we have shitty STs you will take it and think its a good play.

Ask any return man worth 2 pennies if he should get caught by the kicker especially given the open lane he had to the left side of the field.

Its just embarrassing that our return men are so slow and can't slip tackles from a kicker who maybe we should recruit to play Safty since he just did what Martin couldn't do...

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    • WUnderhill
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    • kungfoodude
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