Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

So Right now...Peyton or Eli?


Dpantherman

Recommended Posts

Oh please with the notion that Peyton's weapons were worse. That argument is poo with anyone that knows anything about football.

defense is a weapon far more important than any individual receiver, and the colts D is and has been awful

harrison, wayne etc. are/were good receivers with a great QB

nicks is a great receiver with a good QB

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Peyton in his prime vs Eli in his prime.

Thats a no brainer, peyton.

Both have good receivers, but the Giants have a much better running game and defense for the last few years.

Right now though, well since Peyton might never play again, that one is easy. :)

I think its a no brainer in the regular season. First 9 games head to head in the playoffs. Theres a legit argument.

Peyton is in the convo for greatest regular season QB ever.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Eli is only 2/3 of the QB that Peyton was

You have got to realize, unlike Peyton, who was given free reign to mold a team the way he wanted. Eli is part of a franchise with some history. Unlike his brother, Eli has to be part of that legacy and not try to re-invent the wheel with the Giants.

I always felt Eli was equal to his brother but it's clear who the media choose and Eli had to play second fiddle.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

defense is a weapon far more important than any individual receiver, and the colts D is and has been awful

harrison, wayne etc. are/were good receivers with a great QB

nicks is a great receiver with a good QB

Im talking about two QBs head to head, not the teams.

And there is no way you can just say Harrison, Wayne, and Clark were just some guys and Peyton made them great. Did Joe Montana make Jerry Rice great? Did Aikman make Irvin?

You know it is possible to have a great receiver and a great QB right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Ok fair to judge only his starts.  But you do acknowledge that going from "he's waaaay above league average in a number of categories" to "here's a single stat where he's above league average (not "waaaay") and another where he is exactly at the league average" is a pretty significant backpedal, no?  I'm guessing he's probably in the ~10th range for completion percentage too if we're only looking at starts (I'm too lazy to isolate his starts and do the calculations), so I'll grant you that one too.  But I don't think completion percentage is all that meaningful as a standalone stat if it isn't bolstered by good TD%, Y/A, etc. On that note, for how much people like posting Passing Charts in here (*cough* CRA) - if you peep Shough's passing charts, he hasn't completed a single 20+ yard pass in the past 3 games combined.  His last one was in Week 13 against the Dolphins, which was a single pass of 24 yards.  I just want to be consistent in how we apply our standards - I think it's always been warranted to criticize Bryce for it (even dating back to his rookie season), but do we suddenly not care about that with Shough? And yeah I did acknowledge that Saints' fans have reason to be excited about him and complimented his poise, which is giving my props.  Still not sure I agree that he looks better than a "ton" of QBs nor do I think you or anyone have really demonstrated that.  I think you are generally one of the more reasonable level-headed posters which is why I'm confused at what I consider to be rather hyperbolic language about Shough.
    • I don't disagree with you, but want to point out that Tremble's strong suit has always been blocking. Case and point: on Horn's 25 yard run, he lays down not 1 but 2 nice blocks...and is looking for #3! https://www.panthers.com/video/jimmy-horn-jr-s-25-yard-run-gives-panthers-red-zone-access-on-first-drive
    • It is a popularity contest.  The selection does have meaning though. It is also 1 of the criteria that is considered for the HOF. The game does not have any significance. The team hasn't been to the playoffs in nearly a decade. That's why they don't get primetime national coverage. To the victors go the spoils.
×
×
  • Create New...