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I've gone back almost two years, not coaches film, but watched him isolated, and I feel like he'll do a fine job with guys, especially most teams #2.

The reviews on him do say that he is much better in a zone coverage than man-to-man. He has great reaction skills and breaks on the ball quickly. He often woudl get beat off the line in press man....which is not uncommon for a DB as tall as he is. He does use his speed and length to recover, but is often in a recovery position.

Not saying that he can't succesfully play man coverage. Just that his skill set is better suited for a zone system.

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I've gone back almost two years, not coaches film, but watched him isolated, and I feel like he'll do a fine job with guys, especially most teams #2.

I wouldn't expect you to have "Coaches Film." But it sounds like, to me, you went back and watched highlights on youtube. That's not the best way to judge players. I watch a handful of Bama games per season. He has the talent, measurables, and potential to work on it, but it's something that many people pick up on when they watch him.

I don't want to sound like I am bashing him, because I'm not, it's just a critique of his. If the coaches didn't feel comfortable with Janoris's past and didn't think he'd mature from it, then I would consider Dre. But I am not sure why people would want Dre over Janoris without his background.

The reviews on him do say that he is much better in a zone coverage than man-to-man. He has great reaction skills and breaks on the ball quickly. He often woudl get beat off the line in press man....which is not uncommon for a DB as tall as he is. He does use his speed and length to recover, but is often in a recovery position.

Not saying that he can't succesfully play man coverage. Just that his skill set is better suited for a zone system.

Yet another person has read something similar that I have seen/read.

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I would say someone that is 6'1 3/8, 186 lbs running a 4.45 40 prob has the skills to both cover a guy running down the field/across the field which I've seen him do well on film... and locate an area of the field and play defense in that area. He can do both, and to say he is better suited to one type or the other seems silly.
saying that he's can do both equally well is sillier.

oh, and just because a guy is big and can run fast doesn't mean he can cover squat.

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saying that he's can do both equally well is sillier.

oh, and just because a guy is big and can run fast doesn't mean he can cover squat.

Hey Rayzor thanks for the imput. In watching his games, he has fluid hips can turn and run, and plays the ball well enough in the air. His 40 time shows me he runs a little faster in his under armour spandex than pads, but to say, like some are, that because he can read and react to plays in front of him and hes a big hitter that he can't play man coverage is moronic. If you cant cover a guy man to man, how did you make it to a D1 school, in the SEC, and top 15 draft pick? Because hes tall fast and black? give me a break bro, the dude can play both. Now STFU.

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More and more i am thinking we should look at Corner or Defensive end with our first pick. Say what you want but Dre looks the part. Corners are gonna go fast with folks taking chances on small school prospects and character issue guys like Janoris Jenkins. I am starting to think we need to find our top DE and CB and pick whichever is there. I am still proposing taking a chance on a DE or CB then letting the second truly be BPA at either DT or Safety.

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I wouldn't expect you to have "Coaches Film." But it sounds like, to me, you went back and watched highlights on youtube. That's not the best way to judge players. I watch a handful of Bama games per season. He has the talent, measurables, and potential to work on it, but it's something that many people pick up on when they watch him.

I don't want to sound like I am bashing him, because I'm not, it's just a critique of his. If the coaches didn't feel comfortable with Janoris's past and didn't think he'd mature from it, then I would consider Dre. But I am not sure why people would want Dre over Janoris without his background.

Yet another person has read something similar that I have seen/read.

No, highlights on youtube are highlights bro. I went to a friend who records bama games, and is a die hard fan, and watched a few of the games from each season he's played.

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Hes got to bring his hands more when he hits, but he looks fluid when he runs and can work on everything. No prospect is flawless, but to say he cannot do something is outlandish.

We aren't saying he can't do it (meaning man coverage), we are just saying it isn't one of his strong suits. It's something he'll have to work on. That's all we have ever been saying. He has more potential and upside than Claiborne and Jenkins but his production thus far as a cover corner has not been as high, for whatever reason.

And to think he has shown he can do both man and zone equally well is not accurate. He excels better in zone and I'm not sure why you haven't seen that.

Not opposed to selecting him, but I rate Mo and Janoris above him.

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No, highlights on youtube are highlights bro. I went to a friend who records bama games, and is a die hard fan, and watched a few of the games from each season he's played.

Not saying he can't....just that his physical attributes and strengths appear to translate better to a zone scheme than a man scheme.

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