Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Michael Brockers!


rippadonn

Recommended Posts

Brockers is 21!!! He was born the same year as Cox. In fact Cox is only older then Brockers by 8 days.

http://www.lsusports...&ATCLID=3660178

Where are you getting your info from?

I've read that in a number of places. Sophomore. Still a very impressive player who has done more as a PT player than a guy like Poe.

If Tannehill goes before #9 we may or may not have the option of trading out of nine so we may be better off picking. It's very likely that Coples or Blackmon could be there somehow. The Panthers would probably take Coples in that case since I doubt Blackmon would get that far.

The best thing we could do after that is trade that second for a late first and still pick up Poe or get Still Worthy or J.Jenkins in the second. Cox and Coples may get picked higher so in that case I'd definately go Brockers at nine then BPA.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The plus about Brockers is that he will only fill out and get stronger as he grows into his body. The negative is that it will take a year or two and we have to be patient in the meantime. If we are looking long-term then he will be fine, if we want someone who can be great this year, then he would not be the choice, IMO.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The plus about Brockers is that he will only fill out and get stronger as he grows into his body. The negative id that it will take a year or two and we have to be patient in the meantime. If we are looking long-term then he will be fine, if we want someone who can be great this year, then he would not be the choice, IMO.

It's a good point and personally I'm torn either way. At the end of the day, we really struggled agains the run inside so perhaps his pside in this area gives him an edge...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have been on the Cox bandwagon for a while now.. however, I must say.. after watching Brockers against Alabama.. he was double teamed on literally 99% of the plays. The only plays he wasn't doubled was when they ran to the opposite side.. knowing Brockers would not be a part of that play.

Cox was not double teamed that frequently.. I don't think anyone in the NFL was double teamed that frequently. That makes me think that Brockers may be a lot better than his stats indicate. And his stats weren't too shabby.

I like Brockers. I just feel with Cox you get a instant impact and a pass rush option from day 1.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's a good point and personally I'm torn either way. At the end of the day, we really struggled agains the run inside so perhaps his pside in this area gives him an edge...

I don't think we will struggle this year against the run. On the other hand we have to put more pressure on the quarterback while maintaining gap integrity. I think Brockers isn't a bad choice at all, I just think that he is still green and learning the game. He could be like Pierre-Paul was for the Giants (yes I know they play different positions). Once he figures it out and get stronger and learns better technique, he will be a beast.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Brockers is 19 and is only 1pt behind Cox in the ESPN scouts rankings. That is very special for such a young guy to be playing more mature players and do it at such a high level, rare. He is the definition of upside.

The guy cant even buy beer.If someone gave me millions when I was 19 they may never see me again
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I like Brockers. I just feel with Cox you get a instant impact and a pass rush option from day 1.

But his upside maybe more limited long term. He isn't going to get much better than what you see today. Brockers is going to get much better with time. Reminds me of the Gabbert-Newton debate last year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well, here is another link that points toward Brockers per Joe Person via NFL.com. Panthers are apparently giving Brockers the Cam treatment. [Click the Panthers icon if it just keeps loading]

Please don't go by anything Joe Person says. He get's beat out on Panther news by who ever is in Raven insider and Darrin Gnatt (who is not paid to cover the Panthers any more) his word to me is about as credibile as Bleacher report.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't think we will struggle this year against the run. On the other hand we have to put more pressure on the quarterback while maintaining gap integrity. I think Brockers isn't a bad choice at all, I just think that he is still green and learning the game. He could be like Pierre-Paul was for the Giants (yes I know they play different positions). Once he figures it out and get stronger and learns better technique, he will be a beast.

And your thoughts on Cox?

I did a breakdown of both players in the Draft Forum. You may find it interesting. I just posted it.

Read that, very interesting read and it's the sort of thing that makes people looking at general stats a little misguided. It's always the plays inbetween the highs and lows that make up a players true contribution.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I see they blamed Slavin for the goal like I did. 
    • See this is the problem, you say "can't get off the line quick" and "can't separate quick" but in reality it's "he can get off the line better and create more separation" which are two completely different things. If he couldn't get off the line or separate, he wouldn't have put up the numbers he did and end up a Top 10 pick. But he can get better, and maybe more accurately, consistent with them both, and that will take his game to the next level.  These are things that are also much easier to improve once you get to the NFL than things like being a poor route runner or having bad hands, two of his strengths. Thinking he can't get open in the short passing game also shows you haven't watched enough tape on him, as he was used in that role so much in college with little issue getting open and making plays. And him not using his physicality as much isn't even something that hurts his game because he's so much more agile than a player of his size should be, which he used to his advantage.  Instead of throwing passes where he'd go up and box out a player like a TE or Mike Evans does, they use his athleticism and put the ball in places that only he can get to it, and he usually does (and yes, he'll still be able to do that against NFL DB's with his catch radius). But now that he's in the NFL, I'd like to see him get stronger and add that to his game because it also will help him take his game to another level. As I've said before, if he doesn't improve on those things at all, I think he's a Top 25 WR in this league, he's already that good.  But I think he'll improve on those things and be a perennial Top 10 WR and in his prime is considered and perform like Top 5 guy in some years. My expectations for him this year at 800 yards and 8 TDs (although I do think he'll get to 10 TDs) with a real chance at getting to 1,000.  But those expectations are because I think Thielen will lead the team in yards with close to 1k and XL/Coker each end up in the 500-600 range themselves, just too many mouths to feed this year for a rookie to dominate yardage, especially if we're running the ball well again. But if Thielen can't stay healthy or puts up sub 750 yards, then yea, my expectations for T-Mac likely shift to getting to 1k as a rookie.
    • Svech only 1 goal behind the guy they've pretty much already given the Conn Smythe to...
×
×
  • Create New...