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Boxing verse MMA, who really is the best PFP


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Two different things. Put the best stand-up MMAer against the best boxer and the MMA guy gets beat. But the best take-down MMAer against the best boxer and the boxer gets beat. They've already done it, but without marquee fighters. Randy Couture beat a boxer. Then some boxer beat the crap out of Tim Sylvia. It's all about styles really. But the best MMA guy should know how to take someone down so you'd think he'd always come out on top.

Boxing is SO dull. Punch, punch, hug, ref separate, punch, punch, hug.

That being said, the question I posed is who is best pound for pound collectively in both sports. As I mentioned I think it is Anderson Silva, he can strike, grapple, wrestle, basically the guy can do it all at an elite level. To that point if I match him with anybody currently in the top ten of the light heavy weight division of boxing I think he beats the brakes off of them. Does anybody think Chad Dawson or perhaps Bernard Hopkins could beat Anderson, all things being equal?

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I'm not a fan of either sport but I have more respect for boxing. Boxing is a very dangerous sport and one need not look far to find casualties of the sport. No one trains like a boxer trains and I like the controlled environment in boxing. MMA is too random. A sport needs a strict set of guidelines on or it becomes utter chaos.

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I like watching MMA but I love boxing. I've been a fan of the Klitschko brothers since the Olympics in Atlanta and I believe Vitali in his prime could have held the heavyweight title in any MMA organization. Not only does he have unbelievable stopping power with his right hand he was the world heavyweight champion in kick boxing. You could question his ground game but he has excelled at all aspects of fighting and I know without a doubt he would have become an expert on the ground as well.

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