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SB Nation Tight End Rankings (Panthers #22)


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NFC South Rankings

1. New Orleans Saints** (2nd)

2. Atlanta Falcons (14th)

3. Carolina Panthers (22nd)

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (28th)

22. Carolina Panthers

I expected more from Greg Olsen last season with a rookie quarterback and offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski. This could be a much better year with Jeremy Shockey, who caught 37 passes on 59 targets, out of the picture and Cam Newton vowing to put more burden on his teammates in the red zone. Gary Barnidge could emerge as a pass catcher as well. Ben Harstock is their blocker.

I'm not sure what the author means by more, the Panthers have to spread the ball around to keep the defense honest. I for one think that this will be Olsen's breakout season.

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If Barney does not step up, Olsen may have to have a break-out year. Or, Barney steps up, and takes the heat off Olsen. I like the latter better. But that could just be the homer in me?

Just a added thought. Is this Barney's last year? What if he does not show up this year? Bye bye Barney. He really is in a good spot. Show up, and the position is yours. Not many of those floating around NFL camps.

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This is what puzzles me. We had two good tight ends last year that would rotate in and out if we were not running two TE sets. So why do people think Olsen under preformed when we also had Shockey to throw to? I know the article mentions it but many other media sources act like Olsen was our only TE last year and had a awful year number wise but it's kinda hard to get 800 yards when your splitting time.

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    • You might want to re-read that. They're specifically saying they DON'T use stats. They arbitrarily judge each play and then extrapolate that into a grade.
    • You're correct (on its face). But PFF does indeed use advanced stats to come up with their grades. Not trying to turn this into a debate about PFF (at all because it's been done ad nauseum), but here is how PFF explains it:   GRADES VS. STATS We aren’t grading players based on the yardage they rack up or the stats they collect. Statistics can be indicative of performance but don’t tell the whole story and can often lie badly. Quarterbacks can throw the ball straight to defenders but if the ball is dropped, you won't see it on the stat sheet. Conversely, they can dump the ball off on a sequence of screen passes and end up with a gaudy looking stat line if those skill position players do enough work after the catch. PFF grades the play, not its result, so the quarterback that throws the ball to defenders will be downgraded whether the defender catches the ball to notch the interception on the stat sheet or not. No amount of broken tackles and yards after the catch from a bubble screen will earn a quarterback a better grade, even though his passing stats may be getting padded. The same is true for most positions. Statistics can be misleading. A tackle whose quarterback gets the ball out of his hands quicker than anybody else may not give up many sacks, but he can still be beaten often and earn a poor grade. Receivers that are targeted relentlessly could post big-time numbers but may offer little more than the product of a volume-based aerial attack. https://www.pff.com/grades So PFF uses stats to come up with player grades and rankings.  
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