Cam vs. the elite

[CRA]

Oh noes!! Cam lost again, we have made an epic mistake!!!!

Cam is young and the collective team around him has sucked a big fat one through his first 19 NFL starts. Cam is 7 -12 as a starter thus far.

Here is a look at the current NFL elite at the same point in their career.

Aaron Rodgers - 8-11

Drew Brees - 8- 11

Eli Manning - 9 - 10

Peyton Manning - 5 - 14

Patience. So silly people think Cam should be elite NOW......doesn't happen. Only QBs that won this early were game managers.....and we don't have the D for that.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

Yeah, not everyone can be an instant superstar like RG3

[CRA]

Yeah, not everyone can be an instant superstar like RG3

RG is 1-2 and beat the worst team in football....and the league is a about to put him on the sideline like Vick.

[King Taharqa]

Good post. Nobody remembers those guys struggling and losing like that because the media wasnt looking for some backstory every time they did.

[Argus Plexus]

Well done, thanks for the research. This actually quells a little bit of my fears for this team's direction.

[KendrickPanther]

What bothers me is I don't see the type of progression I want from Cam. His completion % was up in those first 2 starts. However it feels like Cam is always in the shotgun and makes very few presnap reads. This read option is supposed to be training wheels on a mountain bike. Not a tricycle. Eventually he needs to become an elite passer that can resort to running. Right now he relies on the threat of his run to help setup the pass a little too much.

It's a great point that we are only in game 19 but with expectations raised he will need to meet them or be crushed by them. It's amazing how quickly the national media turned into vultures when he struggled. It's like they felt vindicated in their draft criticism.

[CRA]

What bothers me is I don't see the type of progression I want from Cam. His completion % was up in those first 2 starts. However it feels like Cam is always in the shotgun and makes very few presnap reads. This read option is supposed to be training wheels on a mountain bike. Not a tricycle. Eventually he needs to become an elite passer that can resort to running. Right now he relies on the threat of his run to help setup the pass a little too much.

It's a great point that we are only in game 19 but with expectations raised he will need to meet them or be crushed by them. It's amazing how quickly the national media turned into vultures when he struggled. It's like they felt vindicated in their draft criticism.

Unlike most young QBs.....Cam makes difficult throws over and over and over. Watch RGIII play....he isn't being asked to make many legit throws.

I don't care about Cam being Tom Brady and being an elite passer that acts like a surgeon....I don't think he will be that. He can be an elite player who plays QB. Big Ben is elite....but he doesn't play the game like a Peyton Manning in his prime.

I am not sure we have the coaching staff in place for Newton. Chud seems lazy. Just seems content in putting games on Cam like he is 10+ yr Hall of Fame lock like Tom Brady out of the gate. I think the progression is bigger than just what Newton does.....

[carolina-chuck]

Cam cant always win with no "defense" and a poor coaching staffs who wants Cam to win on his own.

[Dpantherman]

Oh noes!! Cam lost again, we have made an epic mistake!!!!

Cam is young and the collective team around him has sucked a big fat one through his first 19 NFL starts. Cam is 7 -12 as a starter thus far.

Here is a look at the current NFL elite at the same point in their career.

Aaron Rodgers - 8-11

Drew Brees - 8- 11

Eli Manning - 9 - 10

Peyton Manning - 5 - 14

Patience. So silly people think Cam should be elite NOW......doesn't happen. Only QBs that won this early were game managers.....and we don't have the D for that.

even further last 5 super bowl champs in their first 3 seasons

· Eli Manning- 39 Starts, 52.9% comp, 54 TDs , 44 ints, 69.4 rtg. 20-19 record. Age at first playoff/ super bowl win 27

· Aaron Rodgers- 0 starts ; First playoff /SB win age 27

· Drew Brees- 27 Starts, 59.2%, 28 TDs, 45 ints, 72.2 rtg. 10-17 record. Age at first playoff win- 27/ SB win- 31

· Ben Roethlisberger- 40 starts, 62.9%, 52 TDs, 62 ints, 90.7 rtg. 34-12 record. Age at first playoff/ SB Win- 23

· Peyton Manning- 48 starts, 60.4%, 85 TDs, 58 ints, 85.5 rtg. 26-22 record. Age at first playoff win- 27/ SB - 30

[LA_Panther]

Yeah, not everyone can be an instant superstar like RG3

RG3 will get hurt in week 10

[h0llywood]

Tom Brady - 3 400 yard games in 13 seasons

Eli Manning - 4 400 yard games in 8 Seasons

Aaron Rodgers - 2 400 yard games in 8 season

Ben Roethlisberger - 3 400 yard games in 8 seasons

Cam Newton - 2 400 yard games in first 2 games.

I think Cam will be alright guys.

[PhillyB]

It's amazing how quickly the national media turned into vultures when he struggled. It's like they felt vindicated in their draft criticism.

i think there's some weight to this. people are quick to confirm their preconceived biases, and that, coupled with the fact that journalism by nature values being accurate and informed, lends credence to the idea that the media's starving for an see-I-told-you-so moment.

[FastNFurious]

Things like this happen when you take a guy 1st in the draft....didn't help that he set records last year...some people were expecting him to actually bust out of a phone booth

[SOJA]

BUT BUT WE HAVE TO HATE CAM....I PREDICTED HIM TO BE A BUST SO HE MUST SUCK