Bigger Problem: Offense or Defense?

[King Taharqa]

points per game made 2011: 25.4 (7th in the league, btw.)

points allowed per game 2011: 26.8 (28th in the league)

points made per game 2012: 18.4 (22nd in league)

points allowed per game 2012: 24.3 (19th in league...not great but still better than last year)

not at all the best way of looking at the big picture, but still tells the same story. you put last year's offense with this year's defense and we win more games.

true, the defense chokes this year just like last year, but the offense has given this team no chance to win in most games.

the defense took solid strides forward. the offense fell into the crapper.

The defense went from utter trash to mediocre. Our team concept is still the same, we win off our offense, not our defense. Atlanta won Sunday with their offense turning the ball over 6 times. We dont have a defense that good or that tough. PERIOD. Our defense playing at their best still needs our offense to carry them. All it takes is one pick, one fumble, and the guys on defense are gonna give up. We've seen it, time and time again. Even with a lead, they give up! If we held them to a higher standard and not lowered it because we want to be the "poor man's Steelers" and want to feel like our D is badass, they would do better.

[Peppers90 NC]

Whole board? Skim through the thread G, no one is with you.

Facts have been presented and my page 2 question is still there for ya.

We know what you are about, so we know you don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.

he will never answer any question that takes even minimal thought, he doesnt have the brain capacity to do so. he doesnt even know what year it is, and he hasnt even watched a panthers game this season. one troll is screwing this whole thread up.

[King Taharqa]

Here is the LMAO part...

Josh Freeman 2,500 yards 25 TDs 7 INTs

Cam Newton 2,400 yards 9 TDs 10 INTs

I think we're calling the wrong dood superman.

Freeman is having a great year. And he had a great 2nd year. I think he proved this year, our defense has no answer for him at the end of games. He carved us up good in a minute.

[Peppers90 NC]

Nobody on this board trusts our defense at the end of games.

Our webmaster who for weeks along with his alts has sung their praises even made a thread about how he knew they would choke on Sunday. He's also absent from this thread. You guys keep up the good fight. Just know at the end of games, most of us want to go for 4th downs because we know our scrubs on defense will help the other teams QB more than our own. This D couldnt stop Josh Freeman with 50 seconds left down 8. LMAO.

here's an easy one for you king troll. can you just type in one line, the name of this thread?

then, can you find one post in this thread claiming the defense is good or even average?

come on king blackness, surprise the hell out of me.

[Fox007]

Offense drops off 15 in the rankings

Defense gains 9

Defense fault and we win off 14 ppg - KT Logic

LOL keep em coming this is what I call entertainment.

[Fox007]

Freeman is having a great year. And he had a great 2nd year. I think he proved this year, our defense has no answer for him at the end of games. He carved us up good in a minute.

I think their defense proved all game that our offense had no answer for them.

Same for the first game where we racked up a *SUPER* amount of 10 points.

I wish that offense would have an answer for their defense.

[King Taharqa]

"The week our defense chokes an 8 point lead with 50 seconds left and lays down in OT sending Panther fans home STUNNNED is the time Im gonna brag about how badass our D is and how improved they are"

[Peppers90 NC]

I think their defense proved all game that our offense had no answer for them.

Same for the first game where we racked up a *SUPER* amount of 10 points.

I wish that offense would have an answer for their defense.

he obviously thinks that people see the obvious, which is the offense is struggling, and because of his major insecurity issues, he believes everyone is trashing Cam Newton. And we just can't have that. This is wrong, he has also proved numerous times his reading comprehension skills suggest he may still be in elementary school.

[King Taharqa]

I think their defense proved all game that our offense had no answer for them.

Same for the first game where we racked up a *SUPER* amount of 10 points.

I wish that offense would have an answer for their defense.

You and Peppers90 are the only 2 people in the world who are puffing your chest out about the Panthers defense right now. Seriously. You idolize a medicore unit that is known for choking games away.

[Peppers90 NC]

again, he can't find one single post where anyone is "bragging" about our defense.

[Peppers90 NC]

You and Peppers90 are the only 2 people in the world who are puffing your chest out about the Panthers defense right now. Seriously. You idolize a medicore unit that is known for choking games away.

hey, we know u must suck at everything in life if trolling is your best asset, and this is the best you can do.

[Fox007]

"The year our offense drops from #5 best in the NFL to one of the worst is the year I'm going to tout them and dog an improved defense"

Let's keep going bra this is easy.

[rayzor]

The defense went from utter trash to mediocre. Our team concept is still the same, we win off our offense, not our defense. Atlanta won Sunday with their offense turning the ball over 6 times. We dont have a defense that good or that tough. PERIOD. All it takes is one pick, one fumble, and the guys on defense are gonna give up. We've seen it, time and time again. Even with a lead, they give up!

and the offense went from great to craptacular.

how can anyone defend the offense this year? it's been pathetic.

and it's not like most think it's cam's fault...most people with a brain know that it's chud's fault for killing the offense that was so good, so i don't know why you're so uptight and downright defensive about the offense. blaming the offense for not getting on the board enough to win games isn't a criticism of your precious cam newton (who i have total faith in being able to take this team to the top, btw)...it's a criticism of the offense as a whole.

quit being so sensitive.

btw....if the offense had been able to get one frikkin yard at the end of the game we would have won it...but no. they had to miss opportunity after opportunity, including cam fumbling trying to get that one yard.

if the offense had been able to get more than 20 points every game we'd have been at .500 this year.

[Peppers90 NC]

how bout, "the year our offense is worse than that dismal 2010 season and no one could possibly think that would ever happen with "superman" on our team"