Newton's Sophomore Slump - another look

[Doc Holiday]

If you look at tiny portions of anything.....you can make an argument for almost anything.

Even when his numbers were poor.....Cam didn't look like he took a step back IMO. Same guy, stats always fluctuate for many reasons.

Run game and OL protection have hampered him more than him really slumping personally.....and Chud being a retard.

if I have to explain offensive game plan management to you one more time, I think I'm going to freak out.

Weeks 1-10 is not a small portion of the season it's freakin 2/3 of it and 3/4 of the games played so far, I know this destroys your argument but at least be intellectually honest enough to admit you are wrong.

I have before, use it as a learning experience.

[CRA]

if I have to explain offensive game plan management to you one more time, I think I'm going to freak out.

Weeks 1-10 is not a small portion of the season it's freakin 2/3 of it and 3/4 of the games played so far, I know this destroys your argument but at least be intellectually honest enough to admit you are wrong.

I have before, use it as a learning experience.

lol....

simple question, did Newton play poorly the first q of the season or have one bad game?

the point was, Newton never slumped. It was the media jumping on one prime time game and using that to explain all our problems.

His numbers dipped b/c of obvious steps backwards in other spots. Eye test shows Newton brings exactly what he did last year. Eye test and stats shows other spots legitimately took big steps backwards....

[Russian Bear]

Im glad everyone loves those other fine young males. It was annoying when everyone liked the Panthers and Cam like they love RG3 and the Redskins now.

[Doc Holiday]

lol....

simple question, did Newton play poorly the first q of the season or have one bad game?

Bucs game, Giants game, super easy

[CRA]

Bucs game, Giants game, super easy

Newton completed 70% of his passes, RBs literally combined for 0 yards. Do me a favor, name the last time that occured in a NFL game. Newton being forced to gamble late with no help in hopes to win.....is NOT poor QB play. Big difference between a QB playing poor vs a team not showing up.

so like I said, first q was 1 poor game. Media turned that game into his slump and slung that song and dance across the board.

[Argus Plexus]

Now if this can all happen before week one...

[DaCityKats]

everybody knows if your qb throws a INT in a game, you dont win.also means your qb had a bad game.

[Urrymonster]

PFF, who were quite harsh on cam last year, have Cam grading positively in 8 games in the passing game (so excluding his runs), negatively 4 times and once they had him graded evenly. I know that many will disregard their gradings, but they have graded him making a definite improvement over 2011.

He really has only had 4 poor games this year, nyg, Seattle, Chicago and Denver. To say he played poorly in the other games is a little extreme.

[Peppers90 NC]

it's much more reasonable to say the team slumped or the offense slumped than to try and pin it on one player. I'm still curious to see how many articles predicting a sophomore slump for Luck, RG3, Wilson etc. Or will they bypass that because none of those guys are as polarizing as Cam?

[Doc Holiday]

PFF, who were quite harsh on cam last year, have Cam grading positively in 8 games in the passing game (so excluding his runs), negatively 4 times and once they had him graded evenly. I know that many will disregard their gradings, but they have graded him making a definite improvement over 2011.

He really has only had 4 poor games this year, nyg, Seattle, Chicago and Denver. To say he played poorly in the other games is a little extreme.

Slump doesn't mean he was god afoul, it just means he wasn't as good as he was last season, and over the first 10 games of the season it's very clearly the case.

[La Pantera]

There's TWO QBs in our division with more INTs than Cam...guess who!

[Urrymonster]

Slump doesn't mean he was god afoul, it just means he wasn't as good as he was last season, and over the first 10 games of the season it's very clearly the case.

Using what as a metric? Not saying they are 100% reliable, but PFF have him universally better than last year. I think he was still making throws, but he literally had no help outside of Olsen and smith so it's expected that his statistics were worse.

[CRA]

Slump doesn't mean he was god afoul, it just means he wasn't as good as he was last season, and over the first 10 games of the season it's very clearly the case.

Look at the RB production and OL play in those games last year 10 games in.

Cam had a significantly tougher job this year. Only reason his numbers dipped is bc those around him where much worse....he was actually better. That being true doesn't mean his stats are better

[Montsta]

I remember telling some coworkers out here that I didn't think he'd put up as big of numbers, but he'd be more efficient this year. If everything goes as it has been, that'll be exactly what happens.