Shurmur in town today too

[Mr. Scot]

Aaaahhh, media :rolleyes:

[PhillyB]

jesus man are you telling me all these browns assholes are the best thing we can find in the league? i mean you can come from a bad team and be a good coach but at some point you have to wonder if correlation is actually causation

[chknwing]

obviously carolina wants to bring in cleveland browns staff because they plan on retaining derek anderson and trading cam

[thefuzz]

Lord....please no!

[Mr. Scot]

jesus man are you telling me all these browns assholes are the best thing we can find in the league? i mean you can come from a bad team and be a good coach but at some point you have to wonder if correlation is actually causation

Actually if you look at their bios, you'll find most of the guys I mentioned only joined the Browns in 2011 (when Shurmur took the job).

They made their reputations elsewhere before signing on in Cleveland.

[PhillyB]

Actually if you look at their bios, you'll find most of the guys I mentioned only joined the Browns in 2011 (when Shurmur took the job).

They made their reputations elsewhere before signing on in Cleveland.

i grant you that, but we have a long history of browns personnel decisions blowing up in our faces

[Mr. Scot]

i grant you that, but we have a long history of browns personnel decisions blowing up in our faces

Discussed that elsewhere.

With Chud gone, we actually have no Browns associated folks on staff. We could hire some new ones, but the only one I know of that we're talking to is Shurmur.

(that is, unless you count Accorsi's Browns connections or the fact that Gettleman interviewed there)

[PhillyB]

Discussed that elsewhere.

With Chud gone, we actually have no Browns associated folks on staff. We could hire some new ones, but the only one I know of that we're talking to is Shurmur.

(that is, unless you count Accorsi's Browns connections or the fact that Gettleman interviewed there)

i'm not saying they're on our staff - i'm saying we have a history of hiring guys with browns coaching connections that have not panned out and are subsequently no longer with us.

[Mr. Scot]

i'm not saying they're on our staff - i'm saying we have a history of hiring guys with browns coaching connections that have not panned out and are subsequently no longer with us.

Heard a couple of people say that, but who can you name other than Davidson and Chudzinski?

Again, I think it's more perception than reality. I'll grant though that if we do hire Shurmur, three in a row would be enough to make a trend.

[frash.exe]

scot, if we hired shurmur, that would be our third consecutive OC with a history on the browns

i would say that is significant