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Tavon Austin

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poorboysrev Rising Star

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Lafell is a big jump ball/possession guy. We need another guy with game breaking speed, we have 1 and he's getting older. Also I hate when guys say "he's a beast, but you can't take him there. Now if it was 10 picks later, great." That is retarded. The Panthers Board could be totally different then yours or Kiper's. If he's the right player and you get a Desean Jackson(without the headcase sh$t) then that is worth a high pick. Predicting trading back is impossible(you need a partner). If he's your guy(whether it's Tavon or whoever) you take him.

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Lafell is a big jump ball/possession guy. We need another guy with game breaking speed, we have 1 and he's getting older. Also I hate when guys say "he's a beast, but you can't take him there. Now if it was 10 picks later, great." That is retarded. The Panthers Board could be totally different then yours or Kiper's. If he's the right player and you get a Desean Jackson(without the headcase sh$t) then that is worth a high pick. Predicting trading back is impossible(you need a partner). If he's your guy(whether it's Tavon or whoever) you take him.

Actually it isn't...

If the player you really want isn't there at 14, then you entertain offers to slide down and get more value out of the pick than taking your next best option who might be there where you trade down to anyways.

None of us know the Panthers board... All we can do is come to our own conclusions by putting ourselves in their shoes. I'd be willing to bet the Panthers board has at least 14 people ahead of Tavon Austin, spanning an entire team's worth of positions.

I get your point that you take a beast when you have the chance, but there are very few sure things in any draft. The key is to come away with the most value you can out of every pick. Look at what the Patriots do every year through the draft. They RARELY take a "reach" pick and if they aren't happy with their options at a certain point, they'll move up or down accordingly. Not only that, but they stockpile good draft picks before hand to allow them to make such moves.

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Actually it isn't...

If the player you really want isn't there at 14, then you entertain offers to slide down and get more value out of the pick than taking your next best option who might be there where you trade down to anyways.

None of us know the Panthers board... All we can do is come to our own conclusions by putting ourselves in their shoes. I'd be willing to bet the Panthers board has at least 14 people ahead of Tavon Austin, spanning an entire team's worth of positions.

I get your point that you take a beast when you have the chance, but there are very few sure things in any draft. The key is to come away with the most value you can out of every pick. Look at what the Patriots do every year through the draft. They RARELY take a "reach" pick and if they aren't happy with their options at a certain point, they'll move up or down accordingly. Not only that, but they stockpile good draft picks before hand to allow them to make such moves.

I understand your point but just saying we don't know how things will shake out at the combine. Guys will sneak in over players we've heard hyped. Predicting a trade back is hard because everyone wants to. Im ok doing it just can't predict it. If Tavon or whoever is the guy and you are not sure he will be there later then I'm ok taking him instead of watching him kill it later on with us saying"but we got an extra 4th rder" and Lafell 2.0.

I know everyone loves the Patriots draft strategy but I think they outsmart themselves sometimes. I think it can hurt you to keep trading back because you water down the talent on your team. You only have so many roster spots and it looks like to me they have alot of smart, pretty good, identical players but no elite talent.

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Good player in this offense. Cam throws high at times. I want Patterson or even Allen, but NOT taking Austin could come back and haunt you.

Could Austin save a roster spot by serving as the #3 RB (DWill will be a june I cut)?

Yes he can play running back too. Did it the last half the season last season. They wanted to get the ball in his hands as much as possible.

Best game of the season for him.

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Lafell is a big jump ball/possession guy. We need another guy with game breaking speed, we have 1 and he's getting older. Also I hate when guys say "he's a beast, but you can't take him there. Now if it was 10 picks later, great." That is retarded. The Panthers Board could be totally different then yours or Kiper's. If he's the right player and you get a Desean Jackson(without the headcase sh$t) then that is worth a high pick. Predicting trading back is impossible(you need a partner). If he's your guy(whether it's Tavon or whoever) you take him.

Lafail is a possession receiver, not a "jump ball" guy. Bad example.

If he was, why don't we ever throw the fade route in the end zone to him?

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Lafail is a possession receiver, not a "jump ball" guy. Bad example.

If he was, why don't we ever throw the fade route in the end zone to him?

Fine just a possession guy. Just saying he's got size but not enough speed to be a vertical threat. I would love a Calvin Johnson that can do both but I would prefer a receiver that can stretch the field over another possession guy if I have to choose. Getting another tight end that is a good "jump ball/endzone guy" could work too.

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Fine just a possession guy. Just saying he's got size but not enough speed to be a vertical threat. I would love a Calvin Johnson that can do both but I would prefer a receiver that can stretch the field over another possession guy if I have to choose. Getting another tight end that is a good "jump ball/endzone guy" could work too.

Would love an end zone threat TE. Eifert is one but chances aren't likely

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tavon is decent but more a fit for patriots to me....

i dont really see him catch that many deep balls.....but it would be hard to pass that guy up.

You would be correct to point. But I would say he would do great with the Panthers. Austin is a good short yard and across the field receiver. WVU had Bailey for most of the deep routes.

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