Yahoo contributor Jonathan Wagner on Nicks.

[Peppers90 NC]

If we can get Nicks for 1 or 2 mil (max) this year, I won't make another WR-related post this off-season. 

so you will be making wr threads, cuz Hixon cost us like $1.3m roughly.  you can at least triple that for Nicks' value.

[top dawg]

so you will be making wr threads, cuz Hixon cost us like $1.3m roughly.  you can at least triple that for Nicks' value.

 

Yeah, that was my point. People who know me know that I've been harping on getting a WR since the season before last. For me not to chime in on something that is even remotely related to improving our WR corps is like some poster (who shall remain nameless) not trolling/pissing someone off at least once per week.  In other words: no way in hell we're getting Nicks for what amounts to anything near Brandon LaFell territory.

[EightyNine]

I remember when the Giants were trying to resign Victor Cruz after he had a monster year, the biggest reason they didnt want to pay him a lot was because they still believed at the time that Nicks was their true #1 receiver.

[top dawg]

I remember when the Giants were trying to resign Victor Cruz after he had a monster year, the biggest reason they didnt want to pay him a lot was because they still believed at the time that Nicks was their true #1 receiver.

 

What a difference a year makes, huh?  Nicks fell out of favor relatively quickly.

 

I mean, dude must have been really making a hell of an impression to fall from grace that fast.  His reported desire to stay in the Big Apple along with his attitude and effort just weren't adding up, I guess.

[rayzor]

What a difference a year makes, huh?  Nicks fell out of favor relatively quickly.

 

I mean, dude must have been really making a hell of an impression to fall from grace that fast.  His reported desire to stay in the Big Apple along with his attitude and effort just weren't adding up, I guess.

it could be that he just got tired of being in NY/NJ and dealing with coughlin. when they started losing and smitty got in his ear about coming back to carolina, that may have been the thing that cemented the riff that was forming.

 

it very well could be that it's just a matter of him needing a fresh start back home or just away from that situation up there.

 

or it could be that he's just a bum that can get 900 yards without putting up much effort.

 

i dunno...but that production and his perceived apathy this past year or so may be the thing that makes him more affordable this offseason.

 

there's going to be a lot of competition for WR jobs from FAs and draft picks he's going to have to deal with. aside from the first team or two who foolishly jump the gun the day FA opens up, prices for WRs aren't going to be all that high. i mean WRs might be wanting more, but teams just aren't going to be shelling out the cash like some think is going to happen.

 

it's still going to be a flooded market with limited cap space for many teams. the market is going to look a whole lot like last year's market.

 

you put nicks up against some of the other top FA WRs this year and i just don't think he's going to be as desirable as some of the other guys who don't have his "issues" or lack of production from last year.

 

he won't be dirt cheap, but he will be affordable and reasonable. he can't afford to not be.

[top dawg]

it could be that he just got tired of being in NY/NJ and dealing with coughlin. when they started losing and smitty got in his ear about coming back to carolina, that may have been the thing that cemented the riff that was forming.

 

it very well could be that it's just a matter of him needing a fresh start back home or just away from that situation up there.

 

or it could be that he's just a bum that can get 900 yards without putting up much effort.

 

i dunno...but that production and his perceived apathy this past year or so may be the thing that makes him more affordable this offseason.

 

there's going to be a lot of competition for WR jobs from FAs and draft picks he's going to have to deal with. aside from the first team or two who foolishly jump the gun the day FA opens up, prices for WRs aren't going to be all that high. i mean WRs might be wanting more, but teams just aren't going to be shelling out the cash like some thing is going to happen.

 

it's still going to be a flooded market with limited cap space for many teams. the market is going to look a whole lot like last year's market.

 

you put nicks up against some of the other top FA WRs this year and i just don't think he's going to be as desirable as some of the other guys who don't have his "issues" or lack of production from last year.

 

he won't be dirt cheap, but he will be affordable and reasonable. he can't afford to not be.

 

Yeah, I don't know why people think that GMs are going to drive Brinks trucks to negotiations, open the back doors and bend over to WRs this year---particularly when they look at the production that big signings brought last year. Harvin, Wallace, Jennings...my goodness!

 

I smell a market correction.

[TheRed]

Players have been getting big contracts, and disappointing long before the 2013 season.

 

If you are going to make that kind of argument about the market for receivers, then I guess the market value for quarterbacks should be going down as well since some of them recently haven't lived up to their quite sizable contracts, right? I don't see either going down in price anytime soon.

[Peppers90 NC]

when they started losing and smitty got in his ear about coming back to carolina, that may have been the thing that cemented the riff that was forming.

 

wow, didnt even know about that.

[Icebox]

Red:

 

Proven wrong? Do you really think that rookie wide receivers have a good track record of immediate success in the NFL? Because if not, the only thing you've proven is that you are a petulant friendless nuisance that is universally hated here at the Huddle. Everyone. Hates. You. Why don't you just leave? Find some other forum to "gift" your 10,000 "pearls of wisdom."

 

All you do have in your quiver is straw man arguments, personal attacks, and baseless accusations (you apparently can't decide if I am a "lurker" or I have been banned). And anyway, how can I be a "lurker" if I am posting? That doesn't make any sense.

[Camsfanclub]

1yr/1 mil with incentives.

[Icebox]

Back on point, none of us really know what kind of contract Nicks will command. I haven't done the legwork. Can anyone think of a comparable situation and what the receiver netted in free agency?

 

Someone mentioned Mike Wallace, He had a disappointing year with the Steelers in 2012 (800 yards, 8 TDs), and then still managed to get a huge contract (5 year, 60 million, with 30 million guaranteed). Of course, Wallace was a bit younger and entering his prime as opposed to leaving it.

 

Any other comparable situation?

 

If that's what Nicks commands, no thanks.

[Peppers90 NC]

1yr/1 mil with incentives.

that's funny, considering Hixon got more than that

[TheRed]

Red:

 

Proven wrong? Do you really think that rookie wide receivers have a good track record of immediate success in the NFL? Because if not, the only thing you've proven is that you are a petulant friendless nuisance that is universally hated here at the Huddle. Everyone. Hates. You. Why don't you just leave? Find some other forum to "gift" your 10,000 "pearls of wisdom."

 

All you do have in your quiver is straw man arguments, personal attacks, and baseless accusations (you apparently can't decide if I am a "lurker" or I have been banned). And anyway, how can I be a "lurker" if I am posting? That doesn't make any sense.

 

I would strongly suggest you listen to the mod and let it go. TruCatzFan.

[Peppers90 NC]

Back on point, none of us really know what kind of contract Nicks will command. I haven't done the legwork. Can anyone think of a comparable situation and what the receiver netted in free agency?

 

Someone mentioned Mike Wallace, He had a disappointing year with the Steelers in 2012 (800 yards, 8 TDs), and then still managed to get a huge contract (5 year, 60 million, with 30 million guaranteed). Of course, Wallace was a bit younger and entering his prime as opposed to leaving it.

 

Any other comparable situation?

 

If that's what Nicks commands, no thanks.

He might want that, but the truth is, the market sets the value.  Wallace was the only big name, homerun threat guy last year and the Dolphins gave out all sorts of funny money.  With Jones, Decker and others, I can see more like 5 yrs/32million and 10 guaranteed.