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The Legend of Duke's Kyrie Irving

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Why is it universally accepted and assumed that Kyrie Irving is a young superstar and the future at PG in the NBA? He is the most overrated player in the league. It's only compounded by living in NC surrounded by Duke fans who proclaim they have a superstar PG in the NBA. Especially considering he played less minutes at Duke than most walk-on players will.

At the same time Kemba Walker is a forgotten player. While Kemba isn't gonna be a superstar, he is still a very good player and every bit as good as Kyrie.

They both entered the league 3 years ago and Kyrie is only 2 years younger than Kemba. In college, Kemba led UConn to a Big East & NCAA Championship. He has stayed healthy his entire collegiate & pro career. Meanwhile, Kyrie played in only 8 games at Duke due to injuries. He missed 54 games his first 2 seasons in the NBA due to injury.

Kyrie seems to be a diva and complains about being in Cleveland. Kemba has embraced Charlotte and is doing his best to make his team a winner (he brought Big Al to the QC).

All that aside, Kyrie's raw numbers aren't even better than Kemba's. And Kemba has kicked Kyrie's ass 3 times this season head to head.

career per 36:

Kyrie ::: 22 pt (44%), 4 reb, 6 ast, 3 to

Kemba: 18 pt (40%), 4 reb, 6 ast, 2 to

3 game avg this season (3-0 Cats):

Kyrie ::: 15 pt, 4 reb, 7 ast, 1 stl, 0 blk, 4 to

Kemba: 18 pt, 4 reb, 9 ast, 3 stl, 2 blk, 3 to

Other than media anointment, what has Kyrie accomplished since high school? I wouldn't trade Kemba for him, that's for sure.

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Irving is a great player and a superstar. 22 ppg, great shooter, sick handle, etc etc.

That is coming from a UNC and Kemba fan. Kemba is no scrub, id put him right below Irving.

He's not even a top 10 player at his own position.

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He's not even a top 10 player at his own position.

 

If I am starting a franchise I can only think of 5 players id take over him. 

 

CP3

Parker

Westbrook

Curry

Lillard

 

CP3 and Parker are not spring chickens. So I am not even sure id start a franchise with them. 

 

Rose would be on that list if he could stay healthy, but he hasnt done that in what 2-3 years? 

 

The PG position is stacked, unlike the SG position. 

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He's not even a top 10 player at his own position.

 

Kyrie isn't a top 10 PG? Not sure what you are smoking. Yes he is extremely overrated, but he is certainly a top 10 PG. There are only a handful of PG's that I would for sure take over him (CP3, Westbrook, Parker, Curry, and maybe Wall). Now I do also feel that Kemba is very underrated. Kemba has been a top 10 PG for 2 years now imo. I would say that Kyrie is a tad bit better than Kemba right now and probably has a little bit more potential, but in saying that I also wouldn't trade Kemba for Kyrie (mainly because I am a bit biased). 

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If I am starting a franchise I can only think of 5 players id take over him.

CP3

Parker

Westbrook

Curry

Lillard

CP3 and Parker are not spring chickens. So I am not even sure id start a franchise with them.

Rose would be on that list if he could stay healthy, but he hasnt done that in what 2-3 years?

The PG position is stacked, unlike the SG position.

Irving & Rose have both missed the exact same amount of time due to injury over the last 4 seasons.

Irving has played in 181 of 264 games (68.5%)

Rose has played in 208 of 308 games; (67.9%)

In no particular order after the top 3...

Tony Parker

Chris Paul

Derrick Rose

Stephen Curry

Russell Westbrook

Damian Lillard

Ty Lawson

John Wall

Rajon Rondo

Kemba Walker

...Kyrie isn't even top 10.

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Irving & Rose have both missed the exact same amount of time due to injury over the last 4 seasons.

Irving has played in 181 of 264 games (68.5%)

Rose has played in 208 of 308 games; (67.9%)

In no particular order after the top 3...

Tony Parker

Chris Paul

Derrick Rose

Stephen Curry

Russell Westbrook

Damian Lillard

Ty Lawson

John Wall

Rajon Rondo

Kemba Walker

...Kyrie isn't even top 10.

 

Rose has been out the last 2 seasons. At this point you gotta take a wait and see approach.

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Rose has been out the last 2 seasons. At this point you gotta take a wait and see approach.

& Kyrie has never made anyone look good other than Kyrie & the guy Kyrie is attempting to defend.

.... let's wait & see if he ever develops into a competent PG or learns what defense is.

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& Kyrie has never made anyone look good other than Kyrie & the guy Kyrie is attempting to defend.

.... let's wait & see if he ever develops into a competent PG or learns what defense is.

 

Who can guard irving? No one is stoping him. Handle is too good and he is too quick. 

 

He could out score the opposing PG every night if he wanted to, with maybe the exception of Westbrook. 

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Who can guard irving? No one is stoping him. Handle is too good and he is too quick.

He could out score the opposing PG every night if he wanted to, with maybe the exception of Westbrook.

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lol das funny

What's funny is you think Kyrie is better than Kemba.

Kemba's Bobcats have beaten Kyrie's Cavaliers in each of the three meetings this season. In those games Kemba has more points (8), rebounds (6), assists (6), steals (6), and blocks (2), as well as fewer turnovers (6).

I guess Kyrie is better though, he has more Pepsi commercials and Twitter All-Star votes.

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