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Carolina Panthers Training Camp Update

Jul 30 2013 01:32 PM Zod Carolina Panthers
Greetings from Spartanburg, where the chicken is always fried and the sweet tea runs like the river Nile. Today was a very spirited and competitive camp. If you are a fan of defensive football, it was awesome. If you are a fan of offensive football... not so much.

The day started with a gladiator type competition between the defensive and offensive units. The guys really got into it, with Cam being the ring leader. There was plenty of trash talk as 3 OL and 3 DL lined up and went at it in the middle of a player circle. Here is Cam jumping around and getting his unit hyped up.
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Steve Smith was not in pads today, but his presence was still felt. He seems to have more of a bond with Lafell this year.
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There was a great pass blocking drill, defensive players vs offensive players (RBs and TEs). This is a crucial drill to keep Cam injury free. Captain Munnerlyn lined up against Deangelo Williams and Captain absolutely blew DWill up. This got the defense pumped and a loud "You asked for it and you got it" was heard. Captain continued to jaw DWill a bit to make sure he got the point.
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Barner had mixed results in this drill, but seemed to improve as it developed. He was able to hold his own against Luke. Between Barner running low and now showing blocking improvement, he may be the most coachable rookie on the field.
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The run offense was able to create a few holes again for the guys to go through.
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But unfortunately for Armond Smith, the D was able to strip the ball and recover his fumble. Credit Ben Jacobs with the strip.
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One thing about Luke Kuechly that has contributed to his quick success, is how many questions he asks. He isn't afraid to stop a drill and seek advice the coach or Thomas Davis. This is something I think a lot of young players don't understand. The coaches do not expect you to know everything, and the fact that you are asking relevant and intelligent questions would only impress them.
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Captain Munnerlyn jumped an Armanti Edwards route and made a really nice interception. Cam was off target and Captain took advantage. I don't think there was much Armanti could have done to prevent it, just a great heads up play by Captain.
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I saw A LOT of this today. See Luke near Cam and slowing up? Thats a sack. If Luke was allowed to stay at full speed his arms would be around Cam by the time this frame is taken.
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I saw a lot of this today as well. Cam not following through on passes, bad form when he did have the room to put everything into the throw and stepping into it.
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Hixon made some nice grabs today, I feel his stock is rising. We need this 8 year vet to show some leadership to the other young guys when Smitty is not there.
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The defense made some very nice plays today in pass defense. Here Russell grabs an interception. He came down with it clean. Could be a decent safety prospect.
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Brandon Williams is starting to get some notice. He had some nice grabs today.
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This picture is guaranteed to drive you crazy. Want to give up an easy TD? How about having Fua and Nak in the mix.
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Cam did have a rough day today. DWill gave him some words of encouragement after practice. Better to get this stuff out of your system and fixed now as opposed to a month from now. This is what training camp is all about.
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Thats it for today folks. No camp tomorrow, but I shall be back at it on Thursday.

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Not sure what to think of our run defense when I see that our suspect oline is opening up big holes

 

No T.D and no Beast though

And I wouldn't start arguing accuracy with "taller" receivers. That's sort of a ridiculous statement. There's no such things as good/bad accuracy with "midget"/giant receivers. Look at Seattle; short QB + short WRs.

 

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but having taller receivers would most certainly help reduce Cam's incompletions.  And using Seattle as a point doesn't contradict anything I said.  Seattle's combo of short QB and WRs didn't produce much, they had one of the worst passing offenses in the league.

Far as Cam go

 

Majority of his pass issues came from pressure last year, which by how camp is going, will happen once again

Williams really has broken away from the TE pack a bit. Might be why they felt comfortable letting Rosario go today.

Can he block? I am guessing so, but we all want more of an offensive threat than Hartsock

No T.D and no Beast though


Ya but the line opening up holes has more to do with the dline than anything

Ya but the line opening up holes has more to do with the dline than anything

 

I think we're just not giving enough credit to our oline. Lot of strength, lot of weight on our oline. One huddler reported on our offense good back to running the ball

People worrying about Newton having a bad practice probably never saw one of Brett Favre's practices (or Jake Delhomme's for that matter).

 

Gunslinger QBs are just about always 'gamers', i.e. not great in practice but significantly better when real bullets are flying.

 

Newton may have bad practices, might even have bad preseason performances.  It happens.

 

When he's consistently bad in a real game, that's when I'll be concerned.

 

Till then...

 

 

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carolina-chuck
Jul 30 2013 09:14 PM

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but having taller receivers would most certainly help reduce Cam's incompletions.  And using Seattle as a point doesn't contradict anything I said.  Seattle's combo of short QB and WRs didn't produce much, they had one of the worst passing offenses in the league.

 

Having receivers that can actually create separation and catch would obviously help. Im not sure where the taller receivers came from, but okay.

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carolina-chuck
Jul 30 2013 09:15 PM

People worrying about Newton having a bad practice probably never saw one of Brett Favre's practices (or Jake Delhomme's for that matter).

 

Gunslinger QBs are just about always 'gamers', i.e. not great in practice but significantly better when real bullets are flying.

 

Newton may have bad practices, might even have bad preseason performances.  It happens.

 

When he's consistently bad in a real game, that's when I'll be concerned.

 

Till then...

 

Not worry about bad practices. Everyone have their up and down days. Worried about the little things that can help further Cam's potential.

Having receivers that can actually create separation and catch would obviously help. Im not sure where the taller receivers came from, but okay.

 

Almost all of Cam's inaccurate passes are high + taller receivers would be more capable of bringing down those high passes = taller receivers would mean fewer incompletions by Cam.
 

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carolina-chuck
Jul 30 2013 09:29 PM

Almost all of Cam's inaccurate passes are high + taller receivers would be more capable of bringing down those high passes = taller receivers would mean fewer incompletions by Cam.
 

 

Thats your "theory". Nothing proves that taller receivers are more capable of making Quarterbacks better. For whatever reasons a guy named Tom Brady made a living off completing passes to a 5'9 Wes Welker.

 

Id love to have a 6 footer like Moose or Bowe, but right now I rather just have a good receiver than worrying about their height.

How has Josh Thomas looked?

Thats your "theory". Nothing proves that taller receivers are more capable of making Quarterbacks better. For whatever reasons a guy named Tom Brady made a living off completing passes to a 5'9 Wes Welker.

 

Id love to have a 6 footer like Moose or Bowe, but right now I rather just have a good receiver than worrying about their height.

 

Try to read what I'm actually writing.  I didn't say all tall receivers make all QBs better.  I said giving Cam taller receivers would help mask his greatest passing deficiency - his tendency to sail passes a little high.  My comments have been Cam specific, not talking about all QBs in general.  If CAM had taller receivers to work with, his high passes wouldn't be as big of a problem.

 

I'm just saying that I wish we'd focus our WR efforts on guys that are on the taller side of the spectrum rather than having a bunch of 6ft and under guys and Lafell.  I want taller receivers, 6'2 or taller preferably, who can also catch.  We haven't had one of those outside of Lafell since Gettis played in '10.  This falls into what people have been saying in other threads about other young QBs being given weapons.  Cam's been given weapons, unfortunately he's been given chop sticks in a spear fight.

Try to read what I'm actually writing.  I didn't say all tall receivers make all QBs better.  I said giving Cam taller receivers would help mask his greatest passing deficiency - his tendency to sail passes a little high.  My comments have been Cam specific, not talking about all QBs in general.  If CAM had taller receivers to work with, his high passes wouldn't be as big of a problem.

 

I'm just saying that I wish we'd focus our WR efforts on guys that are on the taller side of the spectrum rather than having a bunch of 6ft and under guys and Lafell.  I want taller receivers, 6'2 or taller preferably, who can also catch.  We haven't had one of those outside of Lafell since Gettis played in '10.  This falls into what people have been saying in other threads about other young QBs being given weapons.  Cam's been given weapons, unfortunately he's been given chop sticks in a spear fight.

You don't find giant receivers just to make up for newton's high throws, you work with Newton to step properly and follow through on the throw.  You do draft quick fast receivers with good hands (if you can find them) because it makes it harder for DBs to defend them, it gives Cam a big target to throw to (nor just vertically but a bigger radius to the front or back given the longer body and longer arms), and most big receivers are usually more physical and stronger.

Unfortunately there are just  so many Calvin Johnson's out there.

Thats your "theory". Nothing proves that taller receivers are more capable of making Quarterbacks better. For whatever reasons a guy named Tom Brady made a living off completing passes to a 5'9 Wes Welker.

 

Id love to have a 6 footer like Moose or Bowe, but right now I rather just have a good receiver than worrying about their height.

 

Lafell is 6'2. Same height as Moose and Bowe.

I'm not saying Cam should be able to just ignore his problems and expect outside factors to mask it.  I'm saying that if we had been getting normal to bigger sized WRs, his high throws wouldn't be as big of a problem.  Of course Cam should still be working on his footwork and followthrough.  In addition to that, I'd prefer a WR corps that has an average of taller than 5'10.  I'm not even saying I expect a WR corps of 6'3 and taller.  Average (6'1) guys would be acceptable and would help with Cam's overthrows.  I was saying "taller" receivers.  As in taller than our midget corps.

 

For example, Lafell isn't a giant, he's just barely above average at 6'2 if I recall correctly.  And his ability to elevate lead to the longest TD pass in team history.  And the pass was, admittedly, probably overthrown.  Some will look at it as "Cam just put it where only the WR could get it!  Yea, what an awesome pass!"  but truly it was probably a bit overthrown and that's why Lafell was able to take it to the house. 

 

A large portion of Cam's interceptions have been passes that were overthrown and Smitty couldn't get up to get them or some lazy asshat like Legadoodoo can't high point a ball and sometimes didn't even try and a safety playing behind was able to catch it.

And that will be the last I have to say about that.  Talked that point into the ground, didn't intend for it to get drawn out so much.  I thought what I was saying was just obvious common sense.

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koolkatluke
Jul 30 2013 10:18 PM

Brady has bad practices. I'm not worried it was the 4th day in a row and anybody arms and technic can suffer threw to over work and no rest days. Plus he was ripping it up earlier in practcies.

Brady has bad practices. I'm not worried it was the 4th day in a row and anybody arms and technic can suffer threw to over work and no rest days. Plus he was ripping it up earlier in practcies.

And even then, Cam doesnt have to be Tom Brady(few QBs are). He has something Brady has never, nor will ever have and its pure athleticism. At Cams early stage, he can get away with some of the poorer fundamentals because hes just such a freak of an athlete. If this team can surround Cam with even just a smidge better talent, its a playoff team year in and year out.

Is Cam making the right move mentally and had a half practice that wasn't great physically? Because I'm more concerned if he is making wrong reads/early checkdowns/etc. than I am about him sailing some balls during a practice.

Why isn't Fua just automatically cut

 

woa woa woa...Slow your roll, son.  

Please don't make me cum! Finally a red zone target. Get him the "jump ball" like Ryan to Gonzo, Brady to Gronk or Brees to Graham and we are golden!

 

And he supposedly has a 36" vertical. And I'm sure long arms, to go along with those big Guns/Pythons (to ward defenders away, while reaching for the ball), and big mitts to catch it with!!

I'm not saying Cam should be able to just ignore his problems and expect outside factors to mask it.  I'm saying that if we had been getting normal to bigger sized WRs, his high throws wouldn't be as big of a problem.  Of course Cam should still be working on his footwork and followthrough.  In addition to that, I'd prefer a WR corps that has an average of taller than 5'10.  I'm not even saying I expect a WR corps of 6'3 and taller.  Average (6'1) guys would be acceptable and would help with Cam's overthrows.  I was saying "taller" receivers.  As in taller than our midget corps.

 

For example, Lafell isn't a giant, he's just barely above average at 6'2 if I recall correctly.  And his ability to elevate lead to the longest TD pass in team history.  And the pass was, admittedly, probably overthrown.  Some will look at it as "Cam just put it where only the WR could get it!  Yea, what an awesome pass!"  but truly it was probably a bit overthrown and that's why Lafell was able to take it to the house. 

 

A large portion of Cam's interceptions have been passes that were overthrown and Smitty couldn't get up to get them or some lazy asshat like Legadoodoo can't high point a ball and sometimes didn't even try and a safety playing behind was able to catch it.

 

Though I am not one to freak out, after/over the 5th practice, and I won't! You bring up some good points. 

 

I do agree with your general premise, that if Cam had bigger receivers to throw to on a regular basis, it would help him immeasurably. This is especially true in the redzone. This is also why Shockey, was missed so much in 2012.

 

Steve Smith, is just not a big target (especially in the Redzone), and Cam's throws need perfect timing, or a spectacular catch by Smith if they're high, downfield, between or over defenders. 

 

Now of course, Cam will/should get better with his touch throws and accuracy. And the OC and OL need to get much better in 2013 (and I hope it does), and have a lot to do with this for Cam to succeed. 

 

But your point is well taken, indeed. 

Brandon Williams is the new Nelson Rosario...

God I really hope we have a good run defense this year, it's really demoralizing these last few years watching nobody RBs run over our defense