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Stephon Gilmore A True Option for Panthers


This corner is being seen more and more as a top 10 pick, and with the need at corner, and it being such a premium position in the NFL, he is a very likely candidate to be picked up at #9. I used to be a Coples guy, but with all the negative things coming out about him, with very little positive, I think Gilmore would be a solid contributor, while also being the safest pick. It would really help our sad secondary, and get us some takeaways.

Here is a link citing how many analysts and teams talk about how they think he is top 10 material

http://www.nfl.com/n..._headline_stack

I think the guy seems to have his head on straight, with some serious athletic ability.

It is also good to note, this guy is a returner as well. He helps us on multiple fronts. The more I read about this guy and watch him in games, the more I like him.


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How did Gilmore go from our possible 2nd round pick to our possible top ten pick?

I'm not being sarcastic, because I don't follow college ball (I live in San Diego...) so can someone enlighten me on why he has so rapidly shot up the draft boards?
Not a big fan of drafting him at 9, rather have Dre.
6', 4.40 forty time, 31" arm length. Played in the SEC, faced Julio Jones. I'm starting to warm up to him.

How did Gilmore go from our possible 2nd round pick to our possible top ten pick?

I'm not being sarcastic, because I don't follow college ball (I live in San Diego...) so can someone enlighten me on why he has so rapidly shot up the draft boards?


This is a concern of mine as well.

I dont follow the SEC but using logic, id say he didnt dominate on the field like a elite CB should / would therefore he was considered a 2nd round pick.

After the combine and him putting up really good numbers to compliment his size is what triggered all the love / hype.
Gilmore at 9 is a reach. The kid has good size and speed, but his tackling mechanics are piss-poor. He tries hard to make good tackles, but often just ends up looking like a spaz and missing. Shifty receivers will be able to break away from him with relative ease. He stays in his back peddle waaaaay too long as well. He is physical and can push, but he doesn't react well. I am not a fan.
Would be better if we could trade down for this Charles Godfrey look a like.
I think Dre is a better shut down corner.

This is a concern of mine as well.

I dont follow the SEC but using logic, id say he didnt dominate on the field like a elite CB should / would therefore he was considered a 2nd round pick.

After the combine and him putting up really good numbers to compliment his size is what triggered all the love / hype.

not sure that can be considered using logic
I pray he is there in the second round but we cannot burn #9 on Gilmore. Cox or Kuelchy, yes, Gilmore at #9...not for me personally. I like the kid, but not that high.
He moved up from the second round after more people saw him at the combine, saw his athletic ability was there...His game tape has been good all along, I guess he just wasn't getting the press he deserved.... From what I'm reading, him at 10 would not be a reach, and apparent most scouts have him over Dre Kirkpatrick. And it fills a need. I like it because he seems like a safe pick that fills a need.
Can someone explain to me why they don't want Poe but want Gilmore?

Gilmore wasn't even that good on the field, poor technician, and extremely stiff hips. He's better off at safety than cornerback. The only reason anybody is talking about him is because of his athleticism. Which is nice. But doesn't make him much different than Poe.

Can someone explain to me why they don't want Poe but want Gilmore?

Gilmore wasn't even that good on the field, poor technician, and extremely stiff hips. He's better off at safety than cornerback. The only reason anybody is talking about him is because of his athleticism. Which is nice. But doesn't make him much different than Poe.


best case scenario, he's our #2 corner. worst case scenario, he's our new starting FS in place of martin...

i ain't even mad.

I'm not big on where I think a guy should or should not be drafted in relation to everyone else in every other position. If you think he's your guy, then you take him. If they had a re-draft don't you think guys like brees or Beason or tom brady would go higher? damn straight they would.

If we like him, I have no problem with drafting him at 9.

plus there's that whole rookie wage scale that makes drafting anyone even less of a risk nowadays.
How is it people are comfortable posting stuff they know they just now made up?

I see knocks on him bing posted in this thread passed off as fact that don't even exist.

best case scenario, he's our #2 corner. worst case scenario, he's our new starting FS in place of martin...


That isn't the worst case scenario. The only reason people are hyping him as much as they are is because of his combine. Everybody wants to trash Poe because of his game film but not Gilmore. Gilmore is a 2nd round prospect on tape with tremendous upside. But he has serious issues when it comes to footwork, has very stiff hips (which is BAD for a corner), and isn't an ideal fit for a defense that runs more man than it does zone.

I wouldn't be mad if they took him. I trust the Carolina FO. I'm merely just asking this site why they like him but not Poe. I don't see much of a difference. Both blew up the combine, both have lackluster game film (moreso for Poe than Gilmore though).

That isn't the worst case scenario. The only reason people are hyping him as much as they are is because of his combine. Everybody wants to trash Poe because of his game film but not Gilmore. Gilmore is a 2nd round prospect on tape with tremendous upside. But he has serious issues when it comes to footwork, has very stiff hips (which is BAD for a corner), and isn't an ideal fit for a defense that runs more man than it does zone.

I wouldn't be mad if they took him. I trust the Carolina FO. I'm merely just asking this site why they like him but not Poe. I don't see much of a difference. Both blew up the combine, both have lackluster game film (moreso for Poe than Gilmore though).


you are probably right, him being our FS is probably the best, worst case scenario, and i see what you are saying in regards to poe. The difference is that gilmore has actually had some good games whereas poe was pretty non existent until the combine. I know that's what you are basically arguing against gilmore with, but poe really has some "bad" tape, and from what i have seen, gilmore just has "meh" tape.

either way, whoever we think is our guy, I will welcome him onto the team with open arms.
All i know is half this board doesnt know what the hell they are talking about. Remember those discussions this time last year and how soooo many Huddlers felt Cam didn't need to come off the board with that #1 pick??? Im not concerned who goes at 9. Im sure they'll be a great fit for the team.
We getting Patrick Peterson yo
Gilmore and stiff hips has never been on very many scouting reports. Kirpatrick has those concerns as he has trouble turning and running with faster WRs.
Funny that people say that Gilmore can't cover man-to-man and is only gonna work in a zone-scheme considering the fact that he's not very good in a zone and is great in man-to-man.

Funny that people say that Gilmore can't cover man-to-man and is only gonna work in a zone-scheme considering the fact that he's not very good in a zone and is great in man-to-man.


That ECU game he played Man to man, he got torched a bit... Just saying.

That ECU game he played Man to man, he got torched a bit... Just saying.


Had Gilmore been great at ANYTHING he would have been a shoe in for the first round with his size, speed, and PRODUCTION. imo

The combine brought to surface his very nice measurable's, which has propelled him into the first round.

I dont follow the gamecocks, but I think its safe to say he was never a GREAT college CB.
Dash you dont watch the SEC and are making firm judgements...Im confused. i will not pretend to have seen Mychael Kendricks since I havent watched a down of ucla football in the last three yrs.

Ahh wait ... Such is the message board world.... I almost wanted real reasons from why you think he is not great at something.

He did have uneven moments..but he is an agressive tackler and has great ball skills to convert some pick 6s. His size, agility, and speed are rare and is worth a serious look. Dre Kirpatrick is a bump and run guy and struggles to turn and run.

Id expect Hogan to win the 2 spot and have either Dre or Gilmore learn if we went cb so either way..and Kirpatrick will be a good FS.
Gilmore in first and Chandler/Curry in the 2nd would be perfect. A very good corner and a great pass rush that can cause havoc and force fumbles. That would be a perfect 1, 2

Funny that people say that Gilmore can't cover man-to-man and is only gonna work in a zone-scheme considering the fact that he's not very good in a zone and is great in man-to-man.



I thought USC ran mostly zone. Every time I watch gilmores highlights he is in zone. I've heard many different opinions on this but to me he looks like a zone guy. Id rather we take Kirkpatrick. Bama runs all man.
Gilmore is a reach at 9. If we trade back get more picks then I'm cool with Gilmore being the pick.

Also People need to forget Chandler Jones in the 2nd round. He won't be there.