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It's a QB driven league, which means that all of the parts surrounding the QB have to be in order. No OL? QB isn't going to have time to throw or be able to hand it off. No weapons? Won't matter how well they play, can't catch it for them. Bad coaching? They're not the ones designing and calling plays. Football is one of the ultimate team sports. All 11 players need to be in sync rather than one player being dominant (imo). Hell, even with Tom Brady, not a single one of his rings came without a top-10 defense on the other side of the ball or a top-10 OL in front of him. I can understand people having lost patience with Bryce, especially starting off on the wrong foot for the third season in a row. That's not an issue. The issue I have is with folks being intentionally misleading and attempting to tell other posters what they're not allowed to talk about. Considering how often Red has claimed others have done this to him it is interesting at best, disingenuous at worst for him to turn around and do the same.

Sir. You have been shouting down any and all valid skepticism and criticism of our #1 overall pick for 2+ years running. You spent all last spring running cover for him and complaining about derails and toxicity only for us to open the season with back to back blowout losses largely contributed by Bryce Young's abysmal play. You have engaged in the exact same formula this spring. You've spent the last two months rage pooing my posts like an angry ten year old even while you've had me on ignore just for speaking the truth about this QB room and our offense. We opened the season with yet another blowout loss this time to a previously 4 win team. And here you are still trying to play the victim while weaponizing the reactions. Any suggestion of you being victimized by anyone else here is a complete and utter farce. You know it. I know it. Have yourself a great day.

If he went to Clemson he would be off the board. Still hard to believe they have never drafted a Clemson player.

Simply put, Evero has been shafted during his time here. The talent we left him to play with last season was criminal. They've invested some more into the D this offseason, but it's still a unit that's woefully short of talent. We should have let him walk in the offseason when he wanted to go.

They followed the Saints / Brees blueprint - short, slow QB so had to significantly strengthen the iOL to compensate. It's worked - the OLine is incredibly good now. Sadly the short, slow QB isn't.

'That dude' is about to make his 30th career start despite putting up horrific numbers. Who else in NFL history has been handed that long a leash?

Mainly because it's a QB driven league and our QB struggles to complete routine throws.

Id rather have him. Absolute DOG. Could probably be had in the 3rd round. He will out play Sellers this weekend. Book it

Mike Shula is his OC, he is #fuged

I think the way they addressed the IOL was moronic. Many of us have been saying for years we needed to draft IOL and there have been plenty of high quality available for us to take, but instead we've taken fliers on guys with high RAS scores, raw potential, or athleticism that turned into the turd burgers that we all knew they would. We draft stupidly and we build stupidly. While we have spent more resources on offense than defense, we've wasted more on sheer ignorance than we've spent on either.

Per my post - I don't think a Trey Lance et al is going to be your franchise QB, but he gives you an opportunity to field a competitive team until you DO find your franchise QB. Rolling the dice on the Draft is a crazy way to operate. Prize = force something open i.e. try to trade for the backup QB the host team actually like. This idea that you're nowhere without a franchise QB is baffling to me. I'd say maybe 10 NFL teams have their franchise guy. The other 22 are settling or actively looking for the next guy. How many of those 22 are actively tanking? The Steelers are running the corpse of Russell Wilson out there ffs trying to compete. You play to win the game.

Hell, I'm as out on Shedeur Sanders as anyone could be and I'd still nab him immediately if the Browns tried to put him on their PS. I'm ready for anything other than Bryce or the ghost of what used to be Dalton.

Im not saying there's anything wrong with the 3-4. Im saying we've done it wrong. When Tepper forced Ron to switch we didnt have the players to make the change and since then, we haven't been good at acquiring them. If youre going to lean into a scheme, lean into it. We kind of looked at it, but never fully committed and it shows. Now we've got this turd that is just awful.

Sellers will absolutely not be a late round anything. He'll go 1st round based off traits alone.

They need both next year. It's looking like PS Hooker and zip at this point. So just zip really

And there's no guarantee some other team's reject is going to be our prize. We've tried that a few times. I'd sooner bet on a draft pick than a veteran having a resurgence in Carolina at this point. And yeah I think a big veteran QB signing as if this is a win now roster would be shortsighted

I'm simply talking about the overall expenditure of resources on offense vs. defense which is the subject of the thread. We have a LOT more resources both in terms of cap space and in draft capital spent on offense vs. defense.

Canales does this alot with our TEs too. Unfortunately Sanders and Tremble were out there catching blocks while the JAG's TEs were blowing folk up.

Yeah, you can clearly build a good NFL defense with either scheme as the foundation. I personally prefer the 4-3 simply because I'm much more familiar with 4-3 concepts. Both schemes offer advantages and disadvantages. I feel like the main reason the 3-4 became prevalent is that 3-4 OLBs are easier to find than 4-3 DEs. Finding an elite 4-3 DE with the size to put his hand in the dirt every down and the bend to get around the edge is tough. It's easier to find a smaller guy who can stand up and covert speed to power. But then the 3-4 forces you to find an absolute unicorn in the form of the 3-4 NT who can hold up to constant double teams. Without a stud at NT you're really fighting an uphill battle.

QBs get overdrafted due to importance and lack of supply. Does he have the physicals and can he be coached? If so then he will be a top pick. If not then he may be a Panther...

Linville... really?! The OGs were an overreaction from 2023 when they played like 8 guys that will never play another meaningful snap in the NFL. But the others? Moton, Ickey and Chuba were in Carolina before Bryce. So they had nothing to do with him. Who was the #1 WR heading into 2024? After 2024, who was the #1 WR heading into 2025? I'm not saying they haven't put resources into the offense. I'm saying this narrative that the team is sacrificing the rest of the team to make BY look like an NFL QB is just... a bad take. They are trying to bring in and keep talent on a roster that was/is/TBD mostly void of NFL level players. Now if they would have gone out and overpayed/overdrafted for ex-Alabama players Bryce had chemistry with, then that would have been trying to make Bryce look good to the detriment of the team.

If not for Jaycee blowing up the block intended for him and tripping up Dyami, that jet sweep might have ended up being a house call. The design and flow of Coen's play calling impressed me, especially with the way he was presenting different looks and using plenty of motion + misdirection.

He needs to improve his progressions and not look to run every time his primary target is covered. If he does, Sellers could be the number 1 overall pick. If he doesn't, then he'll be a later round flier and the NFL is littered with running QBs that are so so at passing.

I think Igo put a minimum post count on the TB to avoid trolls. Not sure what it is though.