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Weren’t we favored vs the Jets?

He has already started falling off this year. Additionally, his TO/GM rate is back up to near his career norms after the blip last season where he was below 1/GM.

I think people soon forget that Nijman has had more bad games in Panthers uniforms than good games. He is a backup. Again, I don't know what it is about this fanbase and backup OL love. It's a bit odd.

That’s much different than picking up the option. normally a qb wouldn’t go into that situation with one year left but it might end up being Bryce’s only real option. I don’t think he’s going to be an appealing backup qb just because of his size. Like what other offense can he realistically run if someone goes down it’s absolute loser poo but Bryce is looking more and more like someone who’s just happy to be here

Well we'll just see what happens by April. But I put the odds of Bryce Young not being at Panthers training camp at about 1%.

People say all kinds of poo

"We never got into any discussions," Morgan replied. "I never opened that door. Didn't want to trade Bryce, still don't and committed to working with him and helping him grow and helping him develop."

2024 draft was probably one of the worst in panther history 2025 draft on paper looked good but as we sit today, granted its early, there is a lot to be desired He obviously will get another stab at it, but so far I aint seeing it, especially if he was truly advocating for not trading burns and young over stroud

I dont know about singing his praises. I think a lot of it is people thinking scourton is some budding defensive super star which I just don’t see at all. i can’t believe for a second that Dan Morgan who would have maybe won Super Bowl mvp saw Bryce and thought it could work. There’s just no way. Same thing with Reich and mccown etc

I don't see how anyone that watched Panthers football in the past 3 years could argue for Bryce young. It's been terrible. We had more offense under Teddy 2 gloves.

Icky is a marshmellow....

I think the book has been fairly written on Darnold, and by and large stays true. He can be rattled by pressure, and will lose his composure. If a team can get to him and have something go wrong in the plan, the mistakes and errors will pile up. Rams have a better offense, Seahawks sport a better defense. Should be a good 1.

Not a defense of him...an understanding of the problem. (something you seem to be lacking right now) Bryce in a Canales offense is not an example of a stylistic mismatch, but I can give you one if that helps. When he was playing for the Panthers, Cam Newton sat under OC's running Coryell type offenses. Newton had a big arm and was a strong runner. He fit into that sort of attack very well. Then he goes to New England, where at the time they were running an Earhardt-Perkins system (similar to WCO In a lot of what they do but very different terminology). The Patriot offenses back then were heavily based on timing and rhythm style passing, not something that Newton was especially well suited for. So he washed out at New England, not because he had poor ability (his abilities had been on display here on a regular basis) but because he didn't fit what they wanted to do with their offense. I always go back to Jeff Garcia as one of the prime examples of this issue. Garcia in a WCO looked like a world beater. Put him in any other scheme though...yikes! So again, Young's issues here have nothing to do with any failure to mesh with Canales. Hell, is say Canales has actually done pretty well at adapting his system to who he has rather than trying to jam square pegs into round holes. Again, it doesn't take an elite level of football knowledge to get this. It's pretty basic. But if you're not even capable of understanding what the real problem is, how are you going to know you to find the right solution?

Me when I go on the Official Anti-Semitism Channel and do the Official Anti-Semitism Dance with my Anti-Semite buddies: "Huh? What are you even talking about?"

We're going to have to play the Seachickens vanilla the first time, incase we play them in the playoffs..

He usually gets the tight azz in big games...hes 28 and seen a lot of sht in the last 7 years...he really should be getting it together by now.

the insane leash and the defense of him is about as unique as Bryce is himself. One of one. 170 yards, maybe a TD, maybe a turnover. That's Bryce Young. The good day variant.

Any one got bets in? Good luck to ya

I don’t have the time to prove this and go through all-22 and whatever (and I’m doubtful I even could without knowing the plays) but I’m convinced that Canales’ passing scheme with Bryce is one read and check down, and that it’s a tedford style early air raid system. Its quick because it relies on presnap reads and not asking the qb to do too much. It’s not productive at the nfl lvl because it only works with huge talent differentials. You could also run it with basically any nfl qb. Most of the receiving options on the field are just decoys/tiring out defenders. this is why the panthers offense is so anemic. Kirk cousins here is talking about changes in approach and he talks about going from something similar (basically just reading safeties) to what teams are doing since mcvay came along. https://x.com/rapsheet/status/2001477747852341324?s=46 This doesn’t prove my suspicion necessarily and obviously Canales doesn’t really come from a prolific offensive background but I guarantee you Bryce isn’t doing what Kirk is talking about in the second half of this.

I don't like it. You don't like it. But it is what Dan Morgan is going to do. Many people here have sang his praises for months now with some even suggesting he never wanted Bryce Young to begin with which I don't believe for a second. But at the end of the day Dan Morgan listens to David Tepper and he is going to do what he is told.

If you want to get instantly better, get rid of Evro and Bryce...Not hard to see after 3 freaking years....