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For some reason they think all the names they have been drafting will finally pay off. Pitts, London, Robinson

You'd have to run a west coast offense, have a really good rb and slot wr. Roll BY out and put him on the edges out of play action / rpos with a lot of wrinkles to hide intentions

What are the odds we can tell the Vikings "the packers offered us a 3rd, send us a 3rd or he is going to GB" and they actually buy it...

Everyone in the media is irrationally high on the Falcons, I don't get it.

If he fails, got to hope a late round flyer works out since he's uncuttable and untradable for the next two years at least.

still no cuts announced. going to be flurry over the next 48 hours

Well, that is the repeated narrative. We did have a tiny glimpse into if that was true or not though that year. the one game Bryce sat…resulted in the best offensive production on the season. I don’t think anyone was “succeeding”….but I do think given Young’s tools whatever potential exists, Bryce Young’s tools can’t max whatever potential does exist in any sort of traditional scheme. You could throw Bryce Young into the Greatest Show on Turf. I would guess, it would just be a pretty good O. I just don’t see how you get to a high powered O with Bryce Young without it being some super creative O with top tier playmakers. That’s not me saying he can’t play. I think he caps potential

Might be the worst group of linebackers I've seen in all my years watching the Panthers. I don't think anyone besides Wallace or Rozeboom makes another roster. Hopefully they find a gem with other teams cuts or trade a WR for one. Here's hoping Wallace turns into Beason overnight. One good thing about Hurney is he always made sure we had a strong front 7 and a strong ILB group that could tackle and cover. Ever since he left its been utterly crap.

One of the predictions I like most. He realizes we are going waiver dumpster diving for at least another CB and ILB

Lol if you think anybody wants Tuttle. Guy is straight booty cheeks

Not sure he makes it through waivers if we cut Tremaine. David Moore 100% will make it through

Agreed. I don't care if he is a good special teamer when he has no upside as a WR... They aren't hard to find and not worth it when kick and punt returns are such a small part of the game

Just weird to sit him out the last game if you weren't planning to keep him on the 53 man roster

Well, the whole rationale used for the high IQ point guard is it would allow us to spend our resources elsewhere….instead it’s all our first rounders ever since to support the bad pick. Reality is our front office is just bad. If you wanted Bryce Young you were going to need to do something unique and special for him. Instead we just insert a QB with traditional tools into old NFL concepts that pair with traditional talent and our pass game is whack

Good to see some other folks are speaking the same language on this. It's simple common sense. But it seems like there's a disconnect due to the misplaced value the team has put on Thielen because he was the only vaguely good veteran WR willing to sign with the Panthers after we traded away DJ Moore. That time has come and gone. We have two first round WR's on the roster now.

Yeah I’m turning this into a Bryce can’t play QB thread. Just stating that offense was a poo show two years ago. No QB is succeeding in that, much less a rookie. I feel like it’s become a common debate strategy on here to just jump down the rabbit hole of saying he is just bad in so many ways when any certain point gets countered. If that doesn’t work we can deflect to how poorly this team has been ran. In regards to the actual point we are debating, the OL was struggling, half of the skill players aren’t on a roster, Mingo has done nothing with his new team and the staff are either not coaching or on their 3rd team in 3 years, aside from McCown (I liked McCown too). Honestly about as bad as it gets. No need to try to state how good of an offense it was billed it because that has been proven false at this point.

He's a point guard my guy, don't worry about it.

Maybe it doesn’t matter how it is billed. But I know there are about a billion reasons named for why Bryce Young has stunk. The simplistic answer is probably the right one. It’s Bryce. A unicorn NFL QB in terms of the tools he works with. Frank Reich wasn’t Rhule. It was that bad because of Bryce. whatever scenario Bryce is in, I just think his tools aren’t strong enough and brings things down. Where you want the opposite effect to occur. Was last year a little better than the first year? Most expensive OL in the NFL. the cute random scrambles don’t make up for the lack of arm at this level. He can’t scare a D if he isn’t set…arm can’t make those throws. Even when set it’s iffy if he can actually make teams pay with certain throws. Just a very low ceiling QB in terms of his arm. I think there is enough play where that’s not a hot take.

They traded away their 1st next year also to get James Pearce Jr. Really hope this blows up in the Falcons face. I don't care how it happens, I just want to win the division this year. Zero sympathy for other team's issues. And our pass rush looks like it needs all the help it can get.

I would have released him this season, tbh and worked with Christensen out there.

10/10. We're due for some good luck, and I think this team is much better than what we've had the last 2 seasons. Defensive injuries could derail us b/c our depth there is still questionable. Still worried about the pass rush getting pressure without blitzing. Pleasantly surprised by the secondary and run defense. Dan Morgan has done a lot to resurrect this roster from the deplorable position Fitterer left it in by showing some scouting chops with hitting on these guys drafted in the later rounds or UDFAs. Lathan Ransom & Corey Thornton both look like they fit this scheme and the NFL isn't too big for them. I'm as excited for the rookie trifecta of T-Mac, Scourton, and Princely as I can remember. On paper, this offense is the most talented since 2021, maybe 2017, and maybe 2015. None of that means this team will produce any better, but this team has offensive talent & depth like we have rarely had in team history. If you don't believe me, go Google it. We've had some awful offensive collections overall in many years, to varying degrees mitigated by superstar talents like Steve Smith, Christian Mccaffrey, or Cam Newton. I honestly think the collective offensive talent in 2025 may be better, but Cam was so otherworldly in 2015 & 2017 that he covered any flaws. Seriously, though, Cam doesnt get enough love for 2017. I think that may have been his best season. In general, Cam doesn't get enough respect IMHO. Both in college and in the NFL, Cam took teams that without him would have had no chance and won. True definition of a guy who elevated his team. To be clear, I am in no way am I saying this team will be better than 2017 or 2015. My point is that the offensive talent is there on offense if Bryce can unlock it. I've been a Bryce supporter, but there are no excuses not to perform with this group. This isn't the disaster we gave him in 2023 or a new scheme like in 2024 where I think he hadn't mentally removed from his rookie season to start. I dont know how you couldnt be excited about that. And we still compete in a division that isn't insurmountable. I got got in 2023 like most of us in buying into the team propaganda, but in general, I think I'm pretty realistic about the team. I knew in my heart we would be bad last year. I wasnt expecting the defense to be that bad or Bryce to start off that poorly, but I had no expectations whatsoever for making the playoffs. And I genuinely think we will be competitive all year this season. I think we win 8-9 games and compete for the division. I think the ceiling is 11 wins, and the floor is 7. The good news is after next week, we will all be proven right or proven wrong. Keep Pounding!

Fact is he’s 35. Is in his final year. Get something now while you can. Chances are, he’s retiring or going back to Minnesota on a 1 year deal at the end of the season anyways.

Bingo

That’s no good, especially looking at Penix’s injury history in college. They have to keep him upright.